Segura - Spain

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  1. presscall

    presscall United Kingdom SotM Winner SotY Winner Subscriber

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    Just checking the site's new server with this taster pic and caption before I commit to uploading more pics and info.

    Cast iron, indigo-coloured enamelled fuel tank and trivet. Silent burner of an old pattern, reminiscent of (but not identical to) the one on this Pinchard from France

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    All that cast iron means it weighs in at around 4 kilos and in size is comparable with a Coleman 500 and dwarfs a Primus 96


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    The fuel tank is an amazing one-piece casting

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    MORE TO FOLLOW

    John
     
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  2. presscall

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    Heck, the new server's quick! Thanks Ross!

    To continue ...

    It's just possible to make out the name 'Segura', 'España' and a patent number through the thick enamel. Segura means 'secure, free from danger' in Spanish and since the gender of a stove (estufa) is assigned by the Spanish as feminine, it's Segura and not Seguro

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    There's a tapered thread to take the burner riser

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    Fuel filler cap goes here

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    Sturdy cap. I'd to replace the sealing washer - nothing off-the-peg and it was a case of punching one out of thick nitrile sheet

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    The tapped hole for the pump

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    I made a new fibre sealing washer to suit and replaced the non-return valve pip and spring

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    I replaced the pump washer also, which didn't have a threaded securing nut but one held by a burred-over pump shaft

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    I first came across this arrangement in a pre-1911 Primus 100 and it's a case of removing the pump knob, unscrewing the pump washer cup retaining nut, sliding that up and off the pump rod together with the pump cap, sliding a new pump cup into place, then the washer ... longer to describe than to do

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    Robust - very

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    Lovely embossing, tilde over the 'ñ' again

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    Burner details. Burner takes a standard 0.32mm jet, which I replaced

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    With no outer cap, I used a modern-era Primus silent burner convertible cap and silbrazed up a brass ring as a spacer to raise the cap a bit

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    Fuelled up and primed, flame shots next.

    TO BE CONTINUED

    John
     
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  3. Archivist

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    Looking forward to seeing more. That cast tank is impressive.

    And by quite a few others! :lol:
     
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    What a beauty John!

    I have looked at the photos four or five times and see new things of interest every time.

    As you say, that cast tank is amazing and I have not seen anything like it.

    Thanks for showing the stove in great detail.
     
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    Stunning.
     
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    What a stunner,love the enamel finish.
     
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    Super stove John 8) :D/ :D/ :thumbup: , with a great set of detailed pic's as always :clap: :clap: :clap: :thumbup:

    Looking forward to the flame shots 8) :thumbup:

    Stu :mrgreen: :thumbup:
     
  8. Admin

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    The seller in Germany said that someone would buy it - he wasn't wrong - somebody did.

    This has been listed many times over the last 5 months.

    btw I am the present custodian of Bryan's lovely stove. Thank you Bryan.
     
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    The enamelling on the trivet's suffered as a result of the effect of heat over the years and as isn't uncommon (probably more often than not) with cast iron trivets there are heat stress fractures here and there

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    Evidence of the Segura name cast into the iron under the enamel

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    With no hexagon flats on the burner stem, its a case of hand-tightening to get a seal

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    That's had a consequence over time, as someone has (unnecessarily) overdone the tightening and put a twist into the burner tubes. It doesn't affect the function and I'm not likely to put that right

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    The taper on the burner stem is slimmer than a regular Primus burner's

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    Underside of the burner's inner 'cap', which is a pressing incorporated when the burner was brazed up and isn't removable

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    Priming and flame shots

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    Simmer

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    Back up to full heat for a brew

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    John
     
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    Hi John. That is a beauty, nice find. I like your tea pot with it.
     
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    Hi John,

    You never cease to amaze.
    Wonderful job getting this stove up and running again.
    Thanks for sharing.

    Cheers,
    Norman
     
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    Thanks all.

    Tell you what, Norman, I was pleased that the burner fired up as well as it did and first time at that. I had half expected to get overfuelling on a par with that in your Coleman suitcase burner avatar! - I know, you told me the Coleman 413 was sound but you were experimenting with kerosene as the fuel.

    John
     
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    Hi John,

    My Coleman 413 is very sound and works very well. Yes I was experimenting with kerosene, but it did make for some very interesting pictures. If I could get a jet that is a bit smaller in size or resize one it would work great on kerosene, I'm just not sure it's worth the bother.

    You seem to find all of the interesting stoves to present here on spiritburner. The presentation is always a learning experience.
    Thanks again for sharing.

    Cheers,
    Norman
     
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    Hi john I am lost for words, what a beautiful stove I have never heard or seen a enamelled stove tank of this sort.

    The enamel really looks superb I love the colour, and all its unusual features, you have scored a real gem of a stove.
    John you have a fantastic collection of some really beautiful and rare as well as unique stoves in your collection, well done again John
     
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    Great stove and the flames are so..... blue.
    The enamel is beautiful, never seen a stove like this.
    Thanks for sharing and the great photos.
     
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    John
    Nice, good to have preserved another branch off from the classic stove family tree. O:) :D
     
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    In this case "SEGURA" doesn't means Secure.

    Segura is a common surname in Spain.
     
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    Wow, what a beautiful stove! Thanks for another great photo presentation.

    ....Arch
     
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    Hello John
    A great stove and a very interesting report! Once more a highlight and beautiful flame shots out of your kitchen.

    I am still trying to understand how (and "if really" and "why") the tank could be made as a one-piece casting.:-k

    The fractures of the trivet show a weak point of its design: The inner ring is torn apart while cooling down after use. With the more common design the damage is done when the inner ring is expanding while heating up. Best keep cast trivets on a shelf at moderate temperature, then they break when falling down.

    Best Regards
    Radler
     
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