Sievert Campus No3 - unfired?

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  1. Trojandog

    Trojandog United Kingdom Subscriber

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    I saw this on the French Ebay site. There was only one photo, which showed the stove hidden inside the brass windshield. The aluminium pot/cover was not shown or described so it was no surprise when it arrived absent.

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    I was however, surprised that the stove appeared to be unfired. At first I thought that maybe the burner had been replaced. Also, the bell and flame spreader are marked Svea which I wasn't expecting. The images show the stove as received. I have not cleaned it at all. The key and chain are obvious lightweight replacements so I have not shown them.

    So what makes me think that it is unfired?:

    The burner bell and flame plate are unmarked. When I saw 'Svea' marked on them I though that they may be modern replacements, but advertising and catalogues in the reference library from the 1930s show the stove as the Svea Campus No3. The part number 9400 on the flame plate is listed on the spare parts list in 1930s catalogues:

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    Any usage marks are completely absent from the underside of the tank and the underside of the fold out legs:

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    There is no sign of use around the priming depression or riser to tank threads. The riser was only hand tight and unscrewed easily:

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    The top of the riser and jet are pristine:

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    The pot legs and the inside of the brass wind shield show no evidence of use:

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    So what gives me doubts about it being unfired?

    The tank is dry and odour free but has some whitish deposits. The wick is also also odour free but has some discolouration at the top. I'm not sure if this is scorching or staining:

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    The tank cap doesn't seem right. It is not like any other tank cap in the No3 gallery images and is very lightweight. It has obviously had some abuse from a pair of pliers/grips:

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    Perhaps it is not the original cap? Perhaps it is the original cap and had become stuck? The cap on my other No3 incorporates an SRV, but this tank has a pressure release pip built into the top of the tank so it doesn't need a cap with SRV:

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    I would be interested in what others think.

    Regards,
    Terry
     
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    Boy, oh boy, Terry, you lucky dog!
    Lovely stove and photos.
    Yet another stove I do not have.
     
  3. Doug L

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    Terry have a look at these pics

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    Hi Terry, What a great find! The photos are lovely.
    I reckon it is unused, probably because the shop or the first owner couldn't get the fuel cap off!

    The filler cap seems very small, like that used on a Primus 71 perhaps? Base Camp had several styles of the Primus caps last time I looked:

    P4467 Filler cap packing early Primus #71, no pressure release, 12mm £ 0.70

    P4467 Filler cap packing early Primus #71, no pressure release, 12mm £ 0.70

    P4468 Filler cap packing Primus #71 domed cap, no pressure release, £ 0.70

    The colouration of the wick is due to rust stains from the steel wire used to insert it. I have seen the same marking on NOS wicks.

    Great stove and nice photos,

    Best Regards,
    George.
     
  5. nmp

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    Hi Terry
    What a beauty that is! You must have been very pleased when you opened the package,the engraving is very crisp.

    The filler cap is an odd one. why is it so damaged when the rest of it is pristine? I reckon the original was lost and that was bunged on to sell it as near complete as possible.

    A very nice stove indeed!

    Cheers Nick
     
  6. Trojandog

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    I think you are right Nick. In the package was a compliments slip from the "Club des Amateurs D'outils Anciens a Flamme". with a logo of a blowtorch. So I guess that the seller is a blowtorch collector and the cap is probably from his spares box.

    Terry
     
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    An update - I discovered that the travel cap for an Optimus 00 can be used as a replacement for the filler cap on the Campus No3. It is the only thing I have found that fits.

    Obviously, there is no SRV in the 00 travel cap, but in this case it doesn't matter as the tank has a built-in pressure release pip.

    A useful snippet for anyone that may come across a Campus No3 missing it's filler cap.

    Regards,
    Terry

    PS.. Many thanks to George (Kerophile) for his help via PT and email in the filler cap quest :thumbup: :) .