Picked these up yesterday at a local gun show. I figured they probably had lids at one time - but they were to nice to pass up. After seeing @Manzanita 's post , they did in fact have lids and a nice canvas bag. There is not much info online except trademark information, the posts by @Jack K on this site about their reflector oven . Would very much like to find one of those ! I did find a reference online that mentions Smilie made Sheep Herder stoves. This is in " On Our Own in the Wilderness" by Bradford Angier, the 1958 edition. Would love to find one of those - but most likely the label would have been burned off a long time ago. Very well made, thicker material, nice rolled edge and heavier bail. These will be used - after I make up a bag to carry in.