Some questions concerning a Radius No. 20 and multi-fuel stoves

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  1. Frieder Enke Germany

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    Hello there,

    First of: I am very new to this forum and hope that this thread is in the right place here...

    I recently got myself a Radius No 20, which is in pretty good condition, as far as I can tell. My main goal here is to not only safe an old stove from being a dust-collector on some shelf, I´d also like to use it as a stove for travelling. I imagine it might be somewhat hard to get paraffin in some countries and thus would rather like to have a stove capable of burning gasoline. Since I do have very little experience with these glorious classics, some questions came up:

    1. As far as I know, the No 20 is a paraffin stove, unsuited for use with gasoline, right?

    2. Is it possible to run the No 20 with a mix of gasoline and paraffin?

    3. What are your experiences with getting the right fuel in other countries? (eastern europe, asia, turkey, etc.)

    4. What (old) gasoline-capable stoves would you recommend?


    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. hikerduane

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    Welcome, enjoy your trip.
    1) No.
    2) Light on the gas if at all.
    3) No experience.
    4) Old Coleman, not sure of model that has a petrol genny.
    Duane
     
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    @Frieder Enke

    Just to be very clear, the. Radius No. 20 is a kerosene (paraffin) stove and is not safe to run on gasoline.

    Cheers

    Tony
     
  4. Frieder Enke Germany

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    Thanks for the answers so far :) In the short test with gasoline I ran yesterday it sure felt pretty shifty...
     
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    The two danger points are the non-return valve (NRV) at the bottom of the pump tube, where, if it fails will release gasoline into the pump tube; and the other is the pressure release screw at the filler cap which if used while the stove is lit will release gasoline vapour right near the flame.

    Tony
     
  6. Frieder Enke Germany

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    This was exactly what i feared might happen... I really like the No 20, but it seems just to impractical to use it on longer travels...
    Do you know of relatively old gasoline-capable stoves that you would recommend?

    cheers
    Frieder
     
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  8. Frieder Enke Germany

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    Thanks a ton! thats what I was looking for :)
     
  9. Harder D. Soerensen

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    Welcome here @Frieder Enke
    There are several of these small hiking stoves which run on Gasoline (preferably not what you use in cars).
    Alkylate Benzin/White Spirit is the best.
    Have a look at common models like:
    Primus 71
    Optimus 80
    Radius 42
    Coleman 502
    Juwel 34
    Svea 123/123R
    Optimus 8/8R
    Coleman/Aladdin MIL stove M1942MOD.
    Newer stoves like:
    Optimus 99
    Optimus 199 (tri-fuel) Can run on Kerosene/petroleum - Benzine and Alcohol (with a change of jet and an Air - restrictor tube)
    Russian PT-1

    Good luck in finding your favorites ;-)
     
  10. Frieder Enke Germany

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    Thanks so much Harder! This is a great list and I am sure to find one I like :)
     
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    Glad to help @Frieder Enke

    (I might have a spare Primus 71 in case you like this model ;-))
     
  12. Ray123

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    Don't forget the German Enders model 9060, 9061 or 9063 Baby Bensin. All excellent white gas stoves.

    Ray
     
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    Anyone that has worked on an Enders might be hesitant to recommend it.... :)