So apparently I have come with another way to tell if your a stovie . Wait until the power goes out, you have a hankering for some coffee, go outside while it's still having 90 mph (144 km/h) sustained winds during a category two hurricane (Sally), and try to light your Trangia 25 with nova burner to brew a cup of coffee lol. All was going well at first until another 104 mph (164 km/h) wind burst blew the flame out. I had the holes facing away from the wind until all of a sudden the wind changed directions and hit hard. I ended up using the alcohol burner for the trangia on my kitchen stove for two days making coffee in the morning. The Coleman 428 did duty on my back porch cooking the meals for us, neighbors, and random visitors in need. Please forgive the crappy video. I couldn't use a tripod, it's a brand new camera (still learning it), and my first ever edited video. This all combined with the spur of the moment decision to video the event and the conditions didn't help any I'm sure.