Svecia #1, 1930's?

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  1. Doc Mark

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    Greetings, Fellow Stovies,

    I just bid on, and won a very nice Svecia #1 stove from Sweden. At first, I thought it was one of the early versions, but after looking around here at CCS, I now thing it's more likely from the 1930's. I was strongly intrigued by the deep, and lovely engravings on this stove, and thus ponied up the ducats to secure it. It's now on it's way here from Sweden, but here's a "Sneak Peek":

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    These photos were taken by the nice fellow who was selling the stove. I'll take a post more photos, in the reference section, when it arrives, safe and sound!

    @igh371 , @kerophile , @presscall , What are your thoughts as to the age of this one? I think 1930's, but am always up on being educated, if you think I'm off base. Thanks, Mates, for sharing your comments on this one! Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
    Doc

    PS - Ian, George, and John, you three Gentlemen, and a few others, with your seemingly unending blessings in finding and presenting rare and fantastic stoves, most of which I've never seen before, are, part in parcel, the ones who influenced me to get this stove. I thought, "man, that's a lovely stove", and then I thought of you three, and did what I figured you would do, and bid high, in order win it!! So, sincere thanks to the three for you, for being an influencing factor in my obtaining it!!!! Thanks, Mates!
     
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    Wow, nice stove Doc! The deep engraving is really beautiful. I can't wait to see you cooking up an omelet on this beauty.

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    Nice find Doc, an attractive looking stove in first class condition. Real workhorses, and with the engravings that add something extra.

    Ian:thumbup:

    (1930s? - no reason to disagree with your dating:content:)


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    @OMC helpfully brings some useful information together.
     
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    Hi, Guys!

    Thanks for your comments and thoughts! Much appreciated!

    The seller told me he cooked on this stove this past June, and that it is in working condition, just as it will arrive. I hope he's right about that! If so, I'll cook up Ben's (@z1ulike ) omelet, and some bacon to go with it!!

    (@igh371) Ian, Since I cannot see if the NRV is outboard, or inboard, it's possible that this stove is a bit later than the 1930's, but, from what I can see, I'm hoping it's a tad earlier, than later. What will be, will be, eh!?!! In any case, it looks great, and I'm tickled to get it!

    (@presscall ), John, thanks for the links. I'd seen much of that info, but seeing it again, and seeing a bit more, hit the spot! Much appreciated, my friend!

    I checked the tracking and the stove has left Sweden, and is on it's way to the US. Fun stuff! More later...... Thanks, again, Mates, and God Bless!

    Doc
     
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    As it is very clearly marked as a KFE product, it is obvious that it isn't very early as the first years seem to be identical with Optimus and both brands lacks producer marking in that version, getting their own different appearances after a few years when they becomes marked with producer names.
    I have two of that first version of different brands for different companies but identic except for the name - still looking for the brand with a producer marking if it exists.
     
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    All markings are sharp and deep - that indicates the earlier production of those markings as most of the later seem to be made with worn tools.
    The KFE blowlamps were usually made without obvious design change from early 20's to mid 40's.
    I think your stove may be from early 30's or maybe 20's.
     
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    @Lennart F ,

    Thank you for your excellent comments. From what I've seen here at CCS, your thoughts are spot on the money. Since I've never seen one of this type of stove here in the US, it's a new thing for me, and I really enjoy the excellent engravings and stamping. So, it is special to me, even if it's not an earlier version. Thanks, again, for your comments, and God Bless!

    Doc

    PS - Thank you for the additional thoughts, Good Sir! When the stove arrives here, safe and sound, I'll inspect it carefully, then take additional photographs, and post the entire thing in the Stove Reference Gallery. I truly appreciate your comments on the age of this guy!! Thanks, again!
     
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    @Doc Mark

    I don't think KFE made any export efforts - it rather seem that focus stayed on cheaper production in combination with flashy appearance and many brands without large scale advertisement.
    Just the low cost - easy money concept - that sort of companies use to disappear nearly without traces if they don't have their own trade mark.
     
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    Morning, @Lennart F ,

    So, are you tell ing me that the KEF Svecia is a peace of junk, and not worth owning, and using? I'm confused on that, now.

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    Nice score Doc!
     
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    @Doc Mark

    KFE stoves are good - some blow lamps good and some okey - lamps and lanterns in many variations during the decades.
    The company is known and there are photos of the factory but there is a lot to explore about the production as the company used several extern workshops for different products and moved some production around - and they owned many trade marks - somewhat like the AMC vehicle production.
     
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    @Lennart F ,

    Ahhh... now I understand. To my uneducated eye (on this brand) the stove looks like it is quality made. But, we'll see how it really is, when it arrives here. My hope is that it is just as nice as the photos I have, and that it will be firing up, soon. All that, however, remains to be seen. Thank you for your great comments and information, Good Sir! Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
    Doc
     
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    @Doc Mark A lovely stove. I find that there are so many stoves I have that I want to use/fire up but never have the time to do that. Yet my small collection dwarfs compared to people like yourselves. I do wonder sometimes about fettling a stove only to not use it for many years. Then again I like to have stove I use rather then for display/ fulfilling a collection. I hope you do get to use it and enjoy.
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    @G1gop ,

    Thanks, Alan! I totally understand your comments about fettling stoves, then not using it more than a few times. I've been collecting stoves for about 40 years, and it's highly addictive! In the beginning, we had only two stoves: Coleman 425, and Coleman Model 400. We loved, and still love, those two stoves, and used them quite often back then. Fast forward to today, and I have more stoves than I would ever have thought! I've come to love backpacking, and camping stoves, and dearly love collecting them! But, therein lies the conundrum: Where does "collecting" end, and "hoarding" begin!?!?!! Sincerely, I do not have a clue. I do know that I continue to LOVE the "Blue Flame", and take great pleasure in owning all the stoves I have, even if they don't get used more, if at all. Good question, though, Alan. Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
    Doc