Two piece Trangia simmer plate

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  1. Twoberth

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    I don't use a Trangia much, but when reading the recent posts on Trangia sets I was reminded of the two piece simmer plate I made and never posted. I made it at the same time as this here.

    It is a simple replacement of the one piece supplied with the burner, but it stops the ring turning around on the burner when you try to adjust the simmer.

    First remove the one piece simmer plate and replace with two overlapping tinplate sections secured in the ring with an eyelet.

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    The sections can be adjusted with a bend wire/bike spoke

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    or lifted in/out and adjusted with a knife and fork

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    Normal flame

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    Simmering down

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    Regulating the simmer plate with a wire from outside was also in my mind, but what is the advantage of the two pieces compared to one?

    Ciao, Bastian
     
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    Ok sorry, now I understand...
    Very good idea!

    Ciao, Bastian
     
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    When you try to open/close the one-piece simmer plate you apply pressure from the side and sometimes the whole ring turns around.
     
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    Awesome
    A solution instead of a complaint. :clap:
     
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    Thanks, thats a very clever way to avoid needing two 'sticks' of metal to adjust the T-simmer control, and if my proposed clipon flipup simmer control's clip isn;t enough to stop it rotating, I can try this. :)

    Have you suggested it to Trangia?
     
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    You can work the flap of the standard simmer ring back and forth until it is loose enough to need minimal force to adjust it.
     
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    I think if Trangia thought the simmer ring needed a redesign they would have thought of this and other solutions. They could have a vertical groove/flange in the burner/simmer ring to stop the simmer ring from rotating, but as @Ian points out, you can work the simmer plate loose so it can be adjusted with minimal force.

    I am not a religious man but I do tend to worship St. Fiddler, the patron saint of unnecessary modifications.:lol::lol:
     
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    Trangia, most likely, will not agree it needs 'fixing'.

    I, too, am a believer in St Fiddler, and his brother, St Fettler.
     
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    @Twoberth: don't want to capture your thread, but I think it fits to the topic.

    My wire based solution. Not used yet, but will test it now. But I have to say that the lid sits quite loose on the ring, in my case the flame ring does not turn around.

    Ciao, Bastian

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    Hi Bastian,
    That’s a great idea which should work fine.
    We can never have too many ideas. Keep them coming!
     
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    It worked ok, now I know what you mean! I have to improve a little bit, the ring turned, not always, but he did...

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    I begin to like the Trangia, although it is slow cooking. My family is very hungry, so I have to fry the second portion on the Nova.

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    Ciao, Bastian
     
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    Noticing a small niggle yourself or having it pointed out to you buy customers does not necessarily mean you can see a/all solutions.... (hence I wish I had thought of the lift windshield and pan as one trick myself etc. :)

    I thought of that that but it would require an (probably rather inconvenient) change to burner design as well as simmer ring: my interest in your or a clip solution....


    That would seem something a machine in the factory could do, rather than rely on customer knowledge.....


    I just think correcting small niggles means more happy customers == company continues to trade, :)
     
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    I assume the company wants the simmer plate firmly set, not loose. Or it would be loose.

    Have you contacted Trangia about them fixing all the things tgat you do not like?
     
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    1) What is the benefit of it being too tight given that loosening it has been suggested here as an improvement (and may have been suggested to me by others I think)

    2)Yes, might as well suggest small improvements, to a company one like to see continue I would have thought.

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    snwcmpr wrote, "I assume the company wants the simmer plate firmly set, not loose. Or it would be loose."

    I think the simmer plates are tight because the eyelet/rivet setter makes them so. They do loosen up with use.
     
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    Things usually get looser with use, so that’s probably why they are tighter from the factory.