Unknown stove

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  1. ton visser

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    Good morning,

    I bought three stoves this week, 20 Euro the lot, they arrived yesterday.
    In fact I had no idea what I bought, what brands or models, but 20 Euro, I gave it a try.
    The first on e was a Primus 100 with roaring burner.
    The second one was a Optimus 00 with a silent burner.

    And now comes the surprise, the third one, no text or marks att all on the tank, not on the top, side or bottom.
    It had an Optimus roaring burner but I doubt that can be a clue.
    I happen to have a Radius 17 tank without burner and took that one to compare, it is quite like, but not att all.
    The burner connection is the same but the space between the fillercap and the nearest leg is different and the space between the pump and the nearest leg is different too.

    See for yourself:

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    I guess you know my question, which brand could it be?

    Regards,

    Ton.
     
  2. ton visser

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    Hi, could it look like a Primus 45?
    I find it so curious there are no marks nor text on the stove.

    Regards,

    Ton.
     
  3. ton visser

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    No one here who can give a hint about the stove without any marks and text?
    I suppose a stove such as this one is quite rare.

    Regards,

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  4. Ed Winskill

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    Without any marks, it is hard to know if it is rare. If it was 'rare', it would be a rare what?
     
  5. ton visser

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    Ok Ed, but is it not a bit unusual?
    I mean no marks or text at all.
    But it seems to have some sort of fine quality like the well known brands.
    And I am pretty sure no marks or text has been removed in any way, I mean no scratches att all.

    Regards,

    Ton.
     
  6. Ed Winskill

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    It is....just kidding. The idea of having something rare because one can't know what it is; i.e. its rarity is its unidentifiability-- struck me as funny.8]
     
  7. snwcmpr

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    OK, maybe it is a prototype of a revision one of the makers tried.
    How is that for the possibility of rarity?
    If so, you need to compare the size and fine details to a very similar stove.
    Sounds like it is time to "Call the Stove Detective!".
     
  8. gieorgijewski

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    sometimes We can solve "thats kind" of questions...
    but - will be easier with more object photos.
    i.e. one of possible...
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  9. kerophile

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    Hi, Difficult one...

    1.75 imp. pint/ 1 litre “discus” shaped stove tank.

    Male threaded fitting on tank top for riser tube.

    Reserve cap “parked” on the end of pump knob.

    Filler cap and air-release knob have plain knurling pattern.

    Pump cap, and reserve cap have this same plain knurling pattern.

    The filler cap is flush-mounted to the fuel tank, so no Primus-style sunken filler.

    It could have been made by a well known maker as a “special” un-branded order.

    A possible match that I can think of is a French-made “Abeille”.

    It has the same knurling pattern on the knobs as the Mystery stove, but the pump is mounted lower, more on the side of the tank.....

    Abeille Stove

    Best Regards,
    Sherlock Kerophile.
     
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  10. gieorgijewski

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    or one of sunflower versions
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  11. Wim

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    When paraffin/kerosene stoves became less and less popular many makes "merged", founts were no longer stamped with those nice engravings but decals were used instead as distinction between the different "makes". These decals don't last forever. The first time a stove was polished also meant the end of the decal. This does not make this stove any more valuable than any other 1 3/4 pint one I think. Of course I understand the present owner would very much like to know who made this stove and in what time frame. I'd say, 1960s, "somewhere" in England.