Veritas Pump Stove No.5 c.1920(?)

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    Presenting here an early Veritas stove for information and comment. The most distinctive feature I think is the tank top spirit ring; I have never seen a British made stove set up this way. It appears to be mimicking one of the options which appeared on some Primus and Optimus stoves around the time of WW1:

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    Could these have first been produced in the 1917-18 period when the German U-boat blockade was most effective at cutting off imports? or immediately post-WW1?

    The second most distinctive feature is less visible. That is the weight. Everything about this Veritas is heavy weight; from the pressure release key to the tank bottom seam to the pump tube end cap to the gauge of the tank material:

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    On the scales, devoid of fuel, this 2 pint stove weighs in at 1095gms, an equivalent Priimus weighs only 825gms. The tank top legends proclaim 'VERITAS PUMP STOVE No5 LONDON, GLASGOW, MANCHESTER':

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    It has taken some time to acquire an appropriate burner unit; the filler cap, however, is currently a suitably 'chunky' Valor cap temporarily substituted in the absence of an original.

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    A correct cast trivet for this stove now finally tracked down:
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    Hi Ian

    A very interesting stove.
    I don't think I have seen a Veritas (or other British stove) stove with the spirit cup in that position, but of course maybe I have but not retained it in my memory.

    Optimus and Primus made stoves for a small number of years with the spirit cup placed on top of the tank.
    Optimus called them 'Auto Lighting' stoves and Primus called them 'Self Lighting' stoves.
    With the spirit cup in that position the burner and burner feed-tube are both heated.

    Instructions are given by Primus in 1907.

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    Is that definately the correct position for the spirit cup on this model? Could it be that the centre hole has gotten enlarged over the years and it has slipped down? Some spirit cups 'only just' sit on the top of their riser tubes so that 1 burner washer will seal around the mating face at the top of the tube and grip the spirit cup at the same time. I might be wrongly assuming, but with the cup at the top of the riser tube, there's a better chance of it pre-heating the burner assembly?
    Anyone else got any thoughts on this?
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    Yes it certainly is the correct position, and the cups that are positioned thus are permanently fixed, not loose - see the Primus ad. above. Strangely enough I have found that the self-lighting claim does work out - and without the under-burn problem that I would have expected although I don't really understand how this comes about!
    The only unusual feature here is that this is a British made stove, copying a design which is only normally found on some Primus and Optimus products.