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  1. redbaron8 United States

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    I have a Svea 123 that I have had since the 1970s. It gets used a dozen times a year or so. Still runs like a jet airplane, and thus the reason for my post. I have seen on Amazon that there is something called a "muffler" made for this stove. But it is $50, or half the price for the stove itself.
    My question is does this device actually work well enough to justify the expense? Bear in mind I have lived with the noise for 40+ years, but if it works I'd likely buy one. Or, does anyone here know where I might find one for a better price?

    And from the searching I've done today (how I found this site) it appears the Optimus 8R has now been relegated to almost unicorn status. Are they not made anymore? Darn shame as I've always wanted one.

    Thanks for letting me play with you folks.
     
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    Welcome.

    Answers will be provided shortly by the cognoscenti.

    I've never seen any reason to silence my own 123s.
     
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    @Wil Radford

    Yes, you can fit a “silencer” to your Svea 123. There are many fans of these here at CCS (and I have one of the Korean-made silent burners that I bought for a specific purpose).

    But there are also many who would say, why? Aside from the noise, the roarer burner is more stable in the wind, and at least you know it’s still alight...

    The silent burner is just quieter, so good if you disturb other campers by making early morning coffee.

    Cheers

    Tony

    PS: You can still find 8Rs for a reasonable price if you’re not fussy about appearances.
     
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    @Wil Radford

    I have a BD-silencer on the 8R @Doc Mark so kindly helped to get (see pic).
    It works fine - but it needs a bit more preheat due to a larger mass and is more wind-sensible.
    I use it with the small pump too. That way its quite silence and stable with hot blue flames.
    This size fits on my Optimus 99 and Primus 71 and the Russian 8R clone (PT-1) as well.
    (I have an unused one of the latter mentioned PT-1 if youre interested?)

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    Hi Tony. Any ideas where I can find the Korean part? Thanx.


    ETA: Thank's to all of you who have replied so far.


    I kind of, sort of, remember there being one of these muffler devices the replaces the original flame bowl with the muffler device. Or am I dreaming this up???
     
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    "QuietStove" has a vexed history around here...

    Tony
     
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    And Bernie Dawg has been banned. Does that mean we can refer to one, but not the other?

     
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    No... Not at all. I was just pointing out an historical fact, but a bit clumsily, I suppose.

    I've never used either type, but there was a recent discussion about the QuietStove silent cap.

    Cheers

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    Well, as for the BD cap, it is the best. It works really well. As to whether it is worth the cost, that is up to you.

    Quietstove is a bad copy.
    They both have an interesting history here. The BD cap is a genuine article, made to the specs of the designer. The Quietstove cap was/is (Said in a nice way) simply a copy of someone elses hard work.
    I have several BD caps and NONE of the Quietstove caps.
    The Korean cap is supposed to be good.
     
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    If you think the 123r roars wait till you try a dragonfly, nova or firefly stove. The 123r is barely a burble. Its the dragonfly that you want to make early morning coffee on the porch after the neighbors have had an all night dance party and half the guests have just retired to the tents.
     
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    @Wil Radford Welcome!
    Just from links above, it is worthwhile to have a fresh look at what all is out there.
    BD vs Quietstove is old news
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    they are not the only game in town and which is better is not so simple.
    here's one head to head comparison, credit Ben.
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    There are a couple Asian offerings that are also old at this point, summer 2016 thread link. "A couple" so there are 2 shown in that thread the OP is one, scroll down I added a second one, from same seller. and maybe still on ebay?
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    Then there's the silent PT1 option … that silent burner is off another Russian stove and last I saw, the burner is sold separately as silent option for PT1." source
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    and "… silent solution for the 123 & other stoves with same burner bell thread is the silent burner from the Enders 9061 as it screws on. source
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    Then holy crap my something new learned today
    Thanks Harder, I was unaware of that one. harder mentions above.
    The ad confuses me so there's more to learn.. worthy of a post.
    That offering looks real promising, it may prove to be the best of the bunch, who knows. It's calling to me, … my precious ... oh no!
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    credit source seller: gksk2146-3
     
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    @Wil Radford

    Like you, I have found it a little difficult to justify spending the money for the silent burner. I like the sound of the roarer burner when I am cooking or heating water for coffee, but I do think a silent cap would be fun. When I finally do buy one, it will be one from the legendary and notorious man-of-many-skills, the one and only BernieDawg.
     
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