What do you think about Shmel 2 stove?

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  1. Caner Beyazsakal Turkey

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    Hi everyone,
    I'm new in here, I want to ask a your opinion about Shmel 2 stove, I've just bought and tested, it's working great

    What do you think about this stove? You can compare about performance and fuel consumption vs. Coleman Dual Fuel 533


    Thanks a lot of.
    Regards
    Caner

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  2. OMC

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    Welcome Caner,
    Your OP is "What do you think about Shmel 2 stove?"

    Bumblebee stoves on white gas are good stoves, have a look here and here .

    THEN
    you get very specific comparing Shmel 2 with Coleman Dual Fuel 533
    credit @gieorgijewski for much of content in above links.

    Myself I would only consider comparisons using white gas / naptha / coleman fuel and myself, I have no idea how Shmel 2 compares.
    OUTPUT: The 533 (10,000 btu) with perfect flame, "may" burn hotter, maybe a lot hotter.
    FUEL CONSUMPTION: 533 is "the hot setup" known for fast boil and not known for fuel efficiency.
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    If you are more interested in using gasoline...
    comparing Shmel 2 with Coleman 533
    > performance
    > fuel consumption

    @gieorgijewski ? if he chimes in can comment re Shmel 2 performance using gasoline (may have a 533 also).

    533 on first hour of run time on *fresh gasoline might impress. Although "advertised" as dual fuel (white gas & gasoline), using gasoline is problematic. Often is case: performance will degrade as gen clogs up. Gen is not easy-clean (Coleman wants to sell you new gen. Works for them!).
    Must be *fresh gasoline... if gasoline get old inside gen/stove, turn to lacquer is bad, is common problem.
    thx omc

    533 as advertised:
    • 10,500 BTU burner
    • Boils *quart of water in 4 minutes (*approx. 1 liter)
    • 1.1 pint fuel capacity (approx. half liter)
    • Burns Coleman fuel or unleaded gas
    • 1.75 hours of burn time on high setting, 6.5 hours on **low (1 liter fuel)
    • **adjust simmer can be challenge w/ on/off valve of 533
    Shmel 2 per link above
    > ______ burner
    > boils 2 liter water in 10 minutes
    > .75L capacity
    > works on automobile gasolines
    > 3.5 to 5 hours burn time on .75 liter fuel
     
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  3. gieorgijewski

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    many words could be written about it...
    main true:
    - good quality
    - for 2-3 people
    - could be stove for "all live" but - pump!!! - oring type - special design, good to training selfmade it...
    or at once looking for reserve example - or convert pump to classic design
     
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    Thanks to @gieorgijewski - I am still the lucky owner of this one: New Shmel-2

    Easy to use when you get used to the very responsive regulator. Can store a lot of fuel which means you can take it for a short campout without extra fuel bottles...

    I like mine...
     
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    O-ring pumps never work as well as one with a leather cup, it’s true.

    I made the switch from an O-ring to a leather pump cup washer with my Optimus HERE.

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  8. Caner Beyazsakal Turkey

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    Dear @OMC
    Thank you very much for that informations about both of stoves.

    I like very much Shmel 2, I use only car fuel for stoves. Probably Shmel 2 is good for me about this reason. Because tank capacity is and robust design is very good.



    @presscall
    This is pump of my Shmel 2 stove, I think there must be 2 o-ring bottom of the pump, but it has only one. What do you think about it?

    Can I convert the pump classic style? How can I do? Where did you find that leather pump cup?




    @Harder D. Soerensen
    Have a nice cooking! That's good stove really.

    @Mark Layman
    Thanks dear..
     

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  9. Caner Beyazsakal Turkey

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    And I use car fuel for preheating. But it makes very blackish on stove and pump etc. after preheating.

    What can I use for preheating? Can I use for fire GEL? Or I should use only alcohol for preheating?


    Thank you very much for all.
    Greetings from Turkey!
     
  10. Harder D. Soerensen

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    I would recommend alcohol for preheating. You can put a piece of glass fiber wick or Carbon felt in the spirit cup. That would give you a more effiecient preheating.
     
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    I think the Shmel has one of the better O-ring pumps with the O-ring mounted on a cone shaped pump head that expands the ring on the pump stroke. Oil it and if it works well enough I’d be happy to use it.

    It’s part of a pump from another stove, that I cut and silbrazed onto the Optimus pump shaft once I’d cut off the O-ring pump head and part of the shaft.
     
  13. Caner Beyazsakal Turkey

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    @Harder D. Soerensen
    Thank you for suggestion about pre-heating.
    Well, Can I use isopropil alcohol for pre-heating ?


    @gieorgijewski
    Wow, that's excellent guide, I'll try it in theese days, thank you for it.

    @presscall
    I was wondering how much performance after leather pump conversion, probably I'll try it, if I can't then I return the o-ring pump :))
     
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