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Svea 106April 14 2004 at 7:29 AM | Doug |
| I just acquired a Svea 106. Nice big stove in good shape, though feels like it could use new leathers in the pump. I was able to prime it and fire it up, burned nicely, but noticed liquid fuel leaking from where the burner screws in just above the spirit cup. I tried tightening the fitting but to no avail. The second time I tried it the leaking fuel ignited, so I quickly shut it down and will not try again until I solve the problem. Is there a washer or packing that needs replacing? Where would I find this item (also new leathers for the pump)?
Another interesting thing about this stove is that as well as the usual English "King of Stoves" and "Made in Sweden" markings it has some arabic(?) inscriptions on the tank and burner head. Definitely part of the original stove. Any thoughts on this?
Doug |
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Handi Albert
| Doug I have them but | April 14 2004, 12:45 PM |
The postage may be too high from Aust.
Try Base camp
There is a seal that goes between the riser tube and burner
Albert |
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Chuck
| Stove washer | April 14 2004, 2:18 PM |
Doug,
From what I have read the washer is made of asbestos. Fortunatly for me I have never had to replace one. If Albert has them pay for the postage and get two. When you think about it your options are slim.
The Arabic writting on the stove is because it was destine to be imported to the middle east. Sometimes there is other language on them as well. There is a photo somewhere on this site that shows a picture of a stove shop in Bagdad.
Chuck
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Spiritburner
| Re: Stove washer | April 14 2004, 3:42 PM |
The newer washers are made of calmonite (see http://www.spiritburner.com/roarer.htm) These can be split on fitting - always worth having a spare to hand!
The Arabic righting was common on a lot of stoves & the 106 was particularly nicely inscribed. |
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Doug
| SVEA 106 washers | April 16 2004, 12:15 AM |
Thanks for the helpful info. When I took apart the burner there was no washer or packing at all. I tracked some down and ordered them from A&H. I'll let you know what happens.
Doug |
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Ed Winskill
| Svea Arabic | April 16 2004, 12:52 AM |
While the Swedish stoves in general usually have Arabic on them, the Svea 105/106 have particularly nice examples; large script on the top of the tank and also on the raised portion of the tank at the base of the burner/riser.
I have two with these nice inscriptions. But I also have one 106, I'm assuming a later one, that lacks this distinctive large Arabic script. I wonder why the change; I didn't even notice this until I started regularly using this latter 106. A great stove, by the way; it always produces four pure blue roaring flames, each in turn perfectly forked. It's my favorite stove to watch burn. |
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Doug
| Further SVEA 106 woes | April 22 2004, 7:01 AM |
I got a calmonite washer as well as a lead packing for the riser from A&H (!$10 minimum and $6 shipping!). I installed them (thanks to the Spitburner diagram) and lit the spirit. Pretty quickly liquid kerosene began flowing from the nipple! I had the pressure screw open all the way. Fortunately I had a wet towel handy and no major conflagration resulted. Thinking that maybe the pressure adjustment valve in the cap was clogged I loosened the main cap and tried again. Same thing. Any ideas on why this is happening? The valve was open and I hadn't pumped it, why is the liquid fuel flowing? My best guess so is that the nipple might be the culprit (hole too big from improper cleaning tool?). Any ideas? This stove is pretty, but I don't want to burn down the house.
Thanks, Doug |
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Handi Albert
| Doug-Further SVEA 106 woes | April 22 2004, 11:53 AM |
I would say the pressure screw has a blockage and not letting the air out of the tank. Or there is liquid fuel in the generator.
First check the blead screw is letting air out.
If this is ok and you are happy with that, then drain all the fuel out of the tank pressureise it and let as much fuel out of the nipple. Then pre-heat twice and make sure there is no fuel in the generatour before filling the tank again.
Albert |
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Spiritburner
| I agree | April 22 2004, 12:51 PM |
I agree with Albert. If loosening the filler cap stops the fuel coming out of the nipple I reckon you have a problem with the pressure release. I'd empty the tank of fuel & with the cap & release tight pressurise the tank. Then loosen the pressure release - if you don't hear the sound of escaping air I'd say the valve was blocked. It may be helpful to do this in a bucket of water so you can see the bubbles escape when you release but I'd prefer to keep things dry. |
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Karlsen, Dag Ståle
| Re: Stove washer | April 22 2004, 1:15 PM |
I use to visit the local garage/gas station, they use to have differnt washers for drain-plug for the oil sump on engines, they have solved several problems.
Dag S |
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Doug
| Further SVEA Troubleshooting | April 23 2004, 7:23 AM |
I was able to substitute a working fuel lid and it does appear that the original lid valve is blocked. Didn't have the problem with liquid fuel flowing from the nipple when the new valve was open. I did have a problem with kerosene seeping out fron the burner fitting just above the spirit cup -- kerosene mixing with flaming alchohol -- argh! I rechecked the calmonite washer and replaced it. Still the same problem. The washers I got from A&H allowed a bit of wiggle room between the washer and the burner fitting. Problem? Could I use teflon tape? Maybe it's just me but I find flammable liquids seeping from flaming apparatus troubling.
Doug |
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Handi Albert
| Re-Further SVEA Troubleshooting | April 23 2004, 1:57 PM |
Yes Doug teflon tap can be used here . I don't use it but others here has and find no problem with it. But the question remains why is it leaking with a new gasget on it. There must be a problem with it. Have you checked the 2 sealing serfaces, (burner and riser tube).
take the burner off and look at the markes both sides of your new seal. check for grooves on the burner and riser tube that will let the gasses out. There is a reason.
Albert |
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Ed Winskill
| Roaring 106 | April 26 2004, 7:48 PM |
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Doug
| Re: Re-Further SVEA Troubleshooting | April 28 2004, 8:08 PM |
Albert, Thanks for your insights. I didn't see any grooves except for the concentric one tooled into the burner. The calmonite washer seems to be seated correctly between the riser and spirit cup. I was able to get the stove primed and lit, it burned ok but seemed to be lacking pressure. There was a distinctive hiss and soon kerosene was seeping out from between the burner fitting and spirit cup (the top of the spirit cup). As far as I can tell from the online diagram, there's a washer between the spirit cup and the riser, but none between spirit cup and the burner. The spirit cup looks in good condition, no visible nicks or dents along the inside edge. What to try next . . .
Doug |
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Spiritburner
| Re: Re-Further SVEA Troubleshooting | April 28 2004, 9:07 PM |
Not sure teflon tape would last long that close to the spirt-cup. There should be no "wiggle room" around the washer. A lot of the new washers are thin so if you can't tighten it down enough try 2 washers. My favourites are the old soft Monitor washers from Basecamp.
http://www.base-camp.co.uk/Monitor%20.htm |
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Doug
| Re: Re-Further SVEA Troubleshooting | April 28 2004, 9:45 PM |
Thanks, I will try two and if that doesn't work I'll try the washers from BAse Camp. Thanks again, Doug |
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Handi Albert
| Leak at Preheat bowl | April 29 2004, 12:15 PM |
Doug Have a good look at it . The inside hole in the pre-heat bowl should have a large hole in it (this is a slopy fit to the stem where it goes on). When it is all tightend down part of the burner should go though this and press on the seal. Some times these preheat bowls get mixed and sealing does not happen.
Any way it may pay you to put a seal on top and bottom of the pre-heat bowl. Two seals will not do any harm.
Another thought is What brand is the burner. Is It an Asain burner. If so these will not fit on the other stoves properly. They are slightly smaller in diamitor in the thread. When you try to tighten them they will appear they have striped the thread and remain loose.
Albert |
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Anonymous
| Re: Leak at Preheat bowl | April 29 2004, 4:26 PM |
Albert, Thanks for your help. I checked out what you described and everything seems ok (spirit cup fits right, burner is a proper SVEA burner and fits well). I think the problem is the washers I bought from A&H. They are compressing somewhat to fill that little gap around the spitit cup, but I don't think they're soft enough (?). I tried two, which worked a bit better, but I still wasn't getting full pressure and after a minute or two kerosene began seeping (though less this time) from between the burner and spirit cup. I contacted base camp about the Monitor washers mentioned. Thanks again, Doug |
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rik
| Been there, seen it, done it, regret it | April 30 2004, 7:54 AM |
Had one with an untidy repair on the burner tube and original fibre case, and although it worked 100%, I sold it to trailone on ebay
Wish I'd kept it now
Rik |
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Chuck
| Back around | April 30 2004, 3:48 PM |
Rik,
Don't sweatit Rik, They nade thousands  . You will surely be able to find one again.
Chuck | |
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