I had been looking for a Trangia 27 for a “Kap Arctic” project. I did not want to purchase a brand new one nor did I want to mutilate my old T25. Ebay has Trangia’s for peanuts every week. So it was just a matter of waiting. I wanted one of the old ones, the ones with the more durable aluminium, especially as the upper windscreen would be subjected to much more heat than that from a mere bloom of alcohol fired jets. My plan was to get an oldie and buy a new lower windshield that had the hole for fuel line and control valve for a multi-fuel burner. Then a relatively old one came up on Ebay, NIB. I put in a snipe and forgot about it until I won the auction. I thought I’d take some snaps for the Reference Gallery before it became all black from use. There are two others in the reference gallery with the orange strap: teletims here: https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/15896 and Neil B’s here: https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/10286 It came with just the one pot…that is O.K. as I use just one pot these days….and from the blurb on the box it came with just one pot or a kettle anyway. The burner has the flip-up simmer ring. It would appear that this T27 is from late 1970's or early 1980's. I have two T25 kettles, but they are too large in diameter for the T27. No doubt I can pick one up on Ebay sometime for more peanuts. Here it is before I used it:
Very nice purchase Snowgoose. What's that other optional dotted thing on the box (apart from the kettle)? One thing to note about the new Trangia windscreens is that they have a tab arrangement so you put them together and twist a quarter turn to secure them. I'm not sure that an old upper will fit on a new lower. Somebody on this forum will know though.....
Neat. I wanted a 27, but a 25 quite literally fell into my lap, I was vegged out on the couch when the g/f came home from a night auction and dumped it into my lap. I'd be interested to see how the simmer ring compares to the slider type. I commonly have mine closed right up for the best slow simmer it can manage. As for making the old and new halves fit together, THESE GUYS might be able to help. Sweeeeeeet!
I'd say 70's. My original Trangia is from 1978 & had the same box but the strap wasn't plain like this & had Trangia woven into it. Also yours has the old style logo on the base of the burner. So earlier than my 78 version. When I did the Pennine way in 77 with my school pal we used his newly bought Trangia & that was the same as mine so yours is earlier again.
NICE one, Rob. Looks like it's never even been out of the box. I too wonder what the other optional piece is. It looks like some kind of snuffer to me, which it might well be since the old type simmer ring wouldn't put out the stove. HJ
No idea about the optional extra Yes, the old and the new do mate together. I am currently using a new T27 lower windshield with the upper from this stove in a “Kap Arctic” configuration. Cheers, Rob
That is interesting to know that it is probably pre-77, I had an inkling that it might be of that era or earlier as one of the picts has a fellow smoking a pipe….and the smoking police have been around for decades now….no more smoking in outdoor or any other ads now! My old T25 has “Trangia” woven into the strap and that is almost 30 years old. I’d never really taken much note of the base of the Trangia burner and my original ones have just the large T. Cheers, Rob
No idea. Just seen Ian’s post here: https://classiccampstoves.com/posts/201538 Have a look….it could have been something like that. The only way to know is if a member has that optional extra….
Just noticed too that the drawing of the stove shows an even older version with different pan supports on the upper windshield. Also shows the older pan-grip. Older Trangia burners were unthreaded & didn't have a lid, just a simmer ring. Maybe the other 'option' shown is some sort of press-fit cap for the burner. I don't know when the previous style shown on the box changed but coupled with the burner base stamp I think this is likely to be one of the first of the next generation.
I just had another look at the list of contents on the box. The Swedish text refers to the inclusion of a kittel, which they have then translated as a kettle. In fact, this is an incorrect translation and should have read pan or billy. In other words (as the dotted lines on the images suggest) the kettle was never an original part of this set and you do have a complete, as sold, package. Well done.
Mine only came with one pot as well, modern pots will nest with the original, can't remember off hand if you would need an inner or an outer. Funny I made a KAP out of mine as well, I was''t as sentimental and took a drill and a file to it. With mine it's the lower windshield that has suffered from the heat from priming the KAP. The metal around the burner has softened, annealed, for want of a better description. The upper windscreen has showed no signs of heat damage. Neil
That is interesting Neil, ArcticFlame has not reported problems with his Kap-Arctic - he uses the HA Trangia for his. I will give mine a solid winters use and see how I go. The good thing is that as the wind shield is so effective I have found that I don't have to have the flame anywhere near high to get very good boiling and cooking. Early days yet for me but the next six months or so should be a good test, particularly after melting snow for many hours. Cheers, Rob
How many kettles yours version have? My 27 have same box, but with newer logos and with text "NYHET! NU _MED TVÅ KITTLAR" (translated: New! Now with two kettles) also strap with Trangia text, and newer logo on the base of the burner, simmering ring is also the older one. Do anyone have idea when did two kettles came to 27? Picture of box with newer logo in my blog (sorry,in finnish only): http://romuako.blogspot.com/2011/10/lavikoitynyt-kattila.html
It's called an "expanding sealing lid" (my translation, Swedish "expanderande tätninglock") for the older burners produced between 1963 and 1971. I assume it was a complex solution replaced by the simple screw-on lid of today. This pic is from the 1975 catalogue, in the 1976 catalogue it had been replaced by present model. The 1975 catalog also states that burners in the 25 and 27 sets came with a plastic lid. And in e-mail they told me that apparently old boxes were in storage and used long after that accessory disappeared. Thanks to Trangia publishing catalogues dating back to 1926: Trangia catalog 1975
Another T27 of a similar age with the same box (an eBay find). The single pot is an 'inner' size, but without the volume markings and at 104g, 26g heavier than the current UL version. The frypan/lid is 163g - almost twice the weight of the current version! I like the old version of the simmer ring, but it is of no use snuffing the flame out. The upper windshield is about 5mm lower than current models, so a slightly shorter flame gap.
