Primus in the USA & other US brass kero stove makers

Ross; Clayton&Lambert manufactured internal pump pressurized blow torches starting in 1882 and fire pot stoves to melt lead etc. in 1888 ( these are patent dates). I once owned a Clayton&Lambert fire pot stove that was patent pending and have seen torches the same way so they were actually manufacturing these before the patent dates, how much so I do not know. As far as I can tell they did not make a "camp" stove till 1926 and it was the large suitcase 3 burner posted on this forum. I have no idea if these were produced in any number as far as I have been able to determine over the years I may have the only one, hope this helps.
Mike...

 

I would like to add another possible manufacturer to your list. There was a
Primus style stove manufactured in St. Louis, Missouri by the Magic Chef Stove Company.

Possibly this was manufactured under license but it did definitely have Magic Chef's name on
the pump handle.

I tried to buy it on Ebay but was sniped at the last moment. Regretted it every since.

Ken H.

 

My Clayton & Lambert is stamped 1919 on the font rim (no idea of the actual age). The C&L uses two springs and the Primus uses only one, but the style looks the same :o :o
Ernie

 

Ernie: what type of Clayton&Lambert do you have?
Mike...

 

It's a #5 lead furnace {smelter}.
Ernie

 

Ernie: you do good work, very nice early fire pot smelter.
Mike...

 

Hi: i found 1888 Clayton&Lambert patent #396353 (vapor burner). Still looking.
Mike...

 

The other one is here

I'll do more around the USA/NRV info once I've got the Primus USA stuff scanned - soon!

 

Bryan did mention it was Gary who brought it to his attention - I just know you as Berniedawg!

That's a strange set up to get the pump out - but cool tool! As you know both of mine are 'nutted' so a simple spanner (wrench) sufficed. I too noticed a thread like material making a seal on both pumps but it disintegrated on removal. The USA No:1 has sealed, metal to metal, without it. I reckon the waxed thread will work fine.

 

Here's the 1897 Primus USA catalogue link.

 

Just some geographical/historical info. Pearl St., Fulton St., Park Place are all within a few blocks of each other in the present day NY City Hall/foot-of-the-Brooklyn Bridge district. In the 19th century, this was NOT a nice location; the notorious "Five Points" area (as in the film "Gangs of New York") is only a few blocks away.
The twin spring NRV, used by C&L and others, may be the easiest check valve to fettle that I have come upon. (I got into this stove obsession via a previously existing condition involving blow lamps).
That plumber's furnace is the nicest restoration that I have seen. The C&L #5 fire pot shows up in their 1909 catalog. I have a few of their "20" series coil burner pots. I'd like to get a one of the single digit models.
Pete

 

Yes - I made reference to the close proximity earlier in the thread after I banged a few addresses into Google maps.

 

Another USA Primus catalogue c1902-1903 Link

 

Hi all: here is the address of a brief history of Clayton & Lambert. This may answer some questions. Mike...

History of Clayton & Lambert

 

I'll edit it - no problem. When posting there are some icons above the box you type in - there is one with a link symbol - click that & it gives you a field for the URL followed by a field for the text you want. This site auto shortens the really long URLS sometimes found so copying & pasting is good too.

 

BUMP OLD THREAD

Ross,
I thought I recalled a US made PRIMUS, that you had posted then I see above, here, you mention "I've just added my USA made Primus to the gallery" but link goes elsewhere. Where is yours again?

Ben, all, You just posted a stove. Ben you and I have discussed these stoves (and "I thought" I pointed you towards a catalog to match your stove?) this
EXCELLENT STOVE I'm envious as you well know. The dating is not to be confused w/that of Primus Sweden.

I thought it worthy of renewing this discussion here.

Is your circa 1893 based on Pat date or might you have more to share? Christer is of thought it is " last few years of the 1890's. 1897, or so." curious what he based that on (he is aware it is Primus US I am sure of that and is saying Primus US c1897 but do we have any indicators 1893 vs 1897/99 vs 1902...?

There are many stoves w/that "PRIMUS" (and 1893) on tank lid but far fewer like yours with the beautiful US lettering of "PRIMUS" top stamped into the tank (Ross may have one?).
Also of note on yours, the hex fitting on pump. I could link other Primus US examples but see note 1. Oh your tank lettering and that sweeeeet trivet !
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Referring 1897 catalog (note 1) Ben's would be a No.103 but of course wouldn't we be most convinced that it is stamped "Primus No.1" . We've learned a bit since this 2008 OP.

gotta go, thx omc
@z1ulike @Spiritburner @Christer Carlsson

 

Yes, "circa 1893" is based on the patent date stamped on the fill cap. Nothing else to share. I don't know anything about the stove and haven't even looked in the Reference Gallery to see what is there. Yesterday I was feeling bad for not having contributed anything to the forum in a while so I pulled that stove out of the garage and took a few photos.

Ben

 

I haven't a clue where that has gone! It's in the study so I will take some pics & post it this week.

 

I have a nice US-Primus like this one too, which I have been intending for a long time to show here.
I'll get on with it soon.

Here is the requested one Ross posted ten years ago.
It was still left in the regular No1 gallery.

 

Thanks Christer. I'd fettled it too. Bonus!