Juwel 34

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  1. SveaSizzler

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    The Campus Three is kind of a Grail to me. It's the granddaddy of the wartime German stoves and the Svea 123. Don't know if it also influenced the Primus 71, or which was first.
     
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    Did you find any marking on the side?

    For me Campus 3 is like: [-o<
     
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    The only marks are on the top of the tank.

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    No marks on the sides or bottom???
     
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    @SveaSizzler i actually had a few 71 and 80 stoves but traded them all away to friends. I should have kept at least 1 of each. Oh well. They are in good hands and I see them use it all the time.
    Campus 3. Yes it was a grail for me aswell. I had 2 at one point. I ended up with just this one. I love small stoves!
     
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    Is it taller than the 123? Narrower? How does the tank capacity differ between the two? I do like the bigger cup.

    How is the #3 as a user? Hotter? As easy to run as a 123? Spare parts are probably impossible to get now.

    Really, you should have a seperate Gallery entry for the Campus 3.
     
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    Strange - This is the first I see with no side marking.
    No clues in the reference Gallery?
     
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    I'm having a bit of a problem with this....
    As far as I can tell the marking is the same - on all brass 34s in the SRG. Blue or grey tin colour does not matter. Even those that has instructions dated e.g. 1954.

    So, either they only made bras tank in 1949 - and a lot of them! Enough to use for many, many years...
    Or, this mark has a totally different meaning, e.g. refer to a production/testing standard that was introduced in 1949.
    :-k
     
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    I had to go a bit back to find this as I looked up quite a while ago.

    “The writing on the other picture indicates that the stove underwent an official inspection pertaining to its build and (safe) function by East-German authorities, much like the (western-side) inspections by TÜV (Technischer Überwachungsverein) that are required for just about everything that is produced and/or sold within Germany till today. I am veryveryvery sure you have the same thing on the island.

    It reads: "approved and admitted for service by the respective authority under Nr. MPA 1/49"
    MPA is the Material Prüfungs Amt (properly: Materialprüfungsamt), which was located in (East-)Berlin and Magdeburg (in the GDR).
    "1/49" is the file-number, where "49" indicates the year.”

    Taken from this thread:

    https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/juwel-34.38476/add-reply

    So if it relates to the paperwork and not the stove itself - I stand corrected.
     
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    I would assume that indicates that that specific design/materials was tested and approved in 1949... I don't think they would retest every year???
     
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    Can very well be - but then I wonder why/when they stopped marking it with 1/49?
    I will assume that those marked would be older than the unmarked?
     
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    Could have been moved to the documentation following the stove? Or not required to be marked on the item any longer? I do not have any packaging or instruction leaflet for these stoves...
     
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    I have no idea but I had another like it that was also blue but the tank I’m sure wasn’t marked either. Wish I had it still so I could see???
     
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    I just checked my grey brass 34 - it is marked in the same manner with 1/49....
     
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    A grey brass?
     
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    I would too... Based on the fact that the later steel tank versions does not have the marking.
    But I'm not sure.
     
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    Ahh - it must be a sign saying its bedtime - here at 02.46 hours ;-)

    (I really like these small round tin/can stoves - wish I could find an Enders Biwak also)
     
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    Yeah, I just noticed that as well....
    +1 for the Ender's
     
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    I have a brass tanked Juwel 34, with the twist on lids and wire pot supports, like the wartime Juwel 33s had. There is no writing on the sides of the brass tank at all. So not all brass ones have a 49 on them.
     
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    Twist-on Lids?
    The Arara 37 -- another military contract mountain stove, also made in Dresden, but not by Barthel -- had twist-on lids. They are very similar. Are you sure it's a Juwel? Never seen a J- 33 or 34 without strapped end caps. Not calling you a liar. ''There are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in [my] philodophy...''
    Show us some pix, please.
    Here are some shots of my Arara 37:


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