Surplus Swedish army Stove/Cookset (alcohol)

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  1. Jim Henderson

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  2. nicholas

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    In the Swedish Army Trangia, what is the windscreen made of? Aluminum or Stainless Steel. Is the windscreen always the same, no matter if you have the SS or the alu version of the pots?

    Tak!
     
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    My stainless kit has an aluminium windshield.
     
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    I think they're all aluminium, least ways, all the ones I've seen have been.
     
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    I bought 3-4 stainless versions a while back, and all had aluminum windscreen/bases.
     
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    I've seen a good few of them, both in the army and in thrift stores, etc. They've all been aluminium from what I can tell, even when the pot is SS.

    Wouldn't be too surprised if alternatives do exist, though. The reason why the SS pot version came along, was aluminium shortage during WWII, so some windshields could have been made at the same time?
     
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    ok, thanks for the response!

    I wanted to know, because if I want to make make a fire in the windshield, or use campfire coals or charcoal in the windscreen, I have to watch out for the temperature then?

    Could coals get hot enough to melt/deform alu? (melting point is 660° C)

    I also wondered what the second indentation on the handle of the big pot is for, the only use i seem to find is to store it away nicely, the hook rests in the depression.
     
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    yep, i have seen that video, thanks for that trick btw :)

    But I can do this without using the indentation, maybe my handle is bended in a peculiar way, but still, do you think the engineers added this feature just for this trick?

    Has anybody used coals in their windscreen?
     
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    Hello
    I just made a small addition to my Swedish stove. I got tired of the big flames coming out of the side opening of the windshield, wasting energy. I cut a small piece of a foldable aluminium windshield and stapled two smaller bits to it.
    On the photo, the burner is actually burning, no outside flames !
    Not so pretty but it was fast and it works. I might make a better one in a slightly stiffer material.

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    I've looked for o-rings for the Swedish stove but prices and particularly shipping was ridiculous until I found a shop called thefettlebox. He's also on ebay and has very reasonable prices and shipping.

    He sells a lot of other parts for a lot of stoves.
     
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    That would be Ross Mellows, the fellow who started and runs this wonderful forum you are currently posting to!!! :thumbup: :thumbup: :clap: :clap:
     
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    The Swedish issue bayonet for the M96, M38, and Ljungman Semi-auto rifles is the proper handle for the cook kit pots. The bayonet for the Egyptian Hakim rifle will work as well. In lieu of a bayonet, a stick will do the job. I've also used a dingle stick to hang the pot over an open fire. That hook on it is handy. In the U.S. the best fuel available is Denatured Alcohol, aka Shellac Thinner, aka Marine alcohol fuel. The marine fuel often has blue dye in it which causes no problems and is often somewhat less expensive than the others. That's funny because they're all the same stuff.

    Gerry
     
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    This is the correct way to pack it. There is no straps issued. The handle locks down and holds the windscreen. They are still possible to pull apart by hand - but this is the way it should be done. In Sweden we are issued a baggage tag clip to lock the handle down - if lucky. 1365550434-snuskburk_-_correct2.jpg
     
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    OLD THREAD
    input from @westfork on pg 5 of this thread made it my go to for snuskburken | M/40. His are stainless.
    Before i stow a few away I have some M40 things to add.

    @Marc re your "... aluminum(right) is the M44 - please correct me if I'm wrong." source
    I can not say you're "wrong".

    I will offer that Stejar did major research, source (he admits his is not perfect). The terms he used were:
    M/40AL and
    M/40RFR (stainless)
    I'll take liberty with that to what is hopefully more obvious:
    M/40 AL and
    M/40 SS
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    I have
    A. M/40 SS Gense (like westfork's).
    B. M/40 SS PRESSBOLAGET ESKILSTUNA
    name in same place as others, plain text, barely visible.
    C. M/40 AL three crowns NC 68
    D. M/40 AL three crowns KPP (may be much later? never painted btw)

    The contents of the M40s, certainly the burners, is a worthy story for another day.
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    I'm prompted to post to add details including pointing out:
    There are (at least) 2 different bail handles.
    The one on the left is early (on my A & B). The one on the right is later (on my C & D).
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    I've not begun to research year ranges for the 2 (maybe it's already explained on CCS).
    Both of these are very common but the one on the left is not included in Stejar's research.
    I don't know 1st year for the type on the left but westfork gives impression it was in use by 1942.
    I don't know 1st year for the type on the right. My example in pic happens to be "NC 68".
    I don't know last year for the type on the right... maybe this type is still being made / issued?
    thx
     

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    The left bail is found on the original M40 that was produced 1940-44(41-42 only stainless, alu is standard but few produced mainly in 1940).
    The right is simplified production approved as M44(always alu) but later renamed M40 and serial production thought to be started in 1947 - easy to distinguish by the bail - produced through most of the 1980's, late batches usually marked for civil defence.
    M44 and the rare alu M40 are in later publications named M40AL while the stainless are named M40RF - complemented with the spirit stove kit that was introduced from early 1960's.
     
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    My apologies to Stejar.
    re my "... the one on the left is not included in Stejar's research." <-- that is not accurate, sorry. It's not in M/40 group pic but the example is presented in his research.
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    Thank you Lennart.

    A quick search supports Stejar's M/40RFR (stainless), Swedish military... multiple sources.
    My search found no Swedish military hits for M40RF or M44, I welcome links.

    I have learned in meanwhile, re M/40 RFR, rostfritt stål is Swedish for stainless steel.
    In hindsight myself (for searchable text & consistency), I regret suggesting a term other than what Stejar had already established:
    M/40 AL
    and
    "M/40 RFR (stainless)".
     
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    My bad - it says RFR in the list - and all lists that should be around have the new numbers from 1960's on that sum up everything of equal use with one name.
     
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    Yes they where used, I did my Service time 67-68.
    We had Aluminium issu- The Mess kit is made for the two man battle team.
    So one crawled and got the deal of the night for two. Hopefully he got back with all of it. In the meantime the other keept guard and boiled water to fill the Thermos Bottle that also was issued.
    As time whent on I become a Conscript officer and on my gear list was no personal Mess kit, however the QM welcomed me to the Ordertent where evning meal was served on Plates from the Kantin 10 Box.
    Last Field Exercise in 95 and the privates still had and where served on there Mess Kit.
    To get i rattle free you where issued an Kitchen Towel. Mine never opend in the wellpacked Backpackbag of Stridssele/S.
     
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    Semi Combatants locked the Handel with a Safety Pin for the Light and Bang Mine. We how keept or Kit clean used an Ice Pin Stick so we could scrape without shaving metal. Those who had SS Kits liked a Safety Pin for our Grenades.
    Our Mess Kit consisted of Can Opener, foldable ofcours, Cutlery in SS Spoon, Fork and Knife, Kåsa top 4dl serving 3 dl, Windscreen, Burner, M40 Al, Spirit Bottle, Towel, whasing Cusions or Ragata Wasing pads, Thermos SS. We asked our QM and got a Plastic Bag 0, most useful to collect Berries in.