1) Is there a reason trangia don t make the kettle in HA? It would then asthetically match the Ha sets. 2) would a lighter plastic lid survive meth powered 27 without melting in wind blown flames?
Hi @TRA_A I don't know re (1). And re (2), there are a few things to consider. The lid still needs to manage boiling temps. And it is smaller than the base. My best guess would be that it would cope if you had the right plastic. I suggest trying some options and letting us know the results. My T25 kettle lid weighs 41g. If you could find a suitable plastic- a takeaway food container perhaps- you might get this down to 6g, depending on handle. The standard round size takeaway lid would need to be cut down for the T27, so perhaps a little lighter. The kettle from my older T25 weighs around 150g without a lid (190g with). The pot weighs under 130g. I can save a lot more weight by leaving the kettle at home, using a pot to boil water. I have a Chinese T28 copy. Its HA pot will nest in the T27 pots. It weighs 71g. If I needed a kettle with my T27 I would carry that.
1: Why should they? There's no functional need to use the more expensive material. And since they're a wholly owned family business they can do whatever they want to, and judging by how long the HA-material have been available and still no HA kettle - they obviously don't want to... I'm sure they'd do it if you order, say 3000 sets. (That's the amount of DuoSSAL T25's the Finn defense force ordered - that led to the re-introduction of DuoSSAL 2.0 ... ) /Odd
Interesting the imitation t28 ha pans are lighter than real ones and thus a useful kettle alternative, perhaps a ul ha version from trangia... Odd 1) Because it looks nicer in an ha set, also wouldnt it avoid the black dots seen in old plain alu trangias?
Looks, yes. But I reiterate: There's no _functional_ need to use the more expensive material. So they don't - obviously...
Trangia 1 litre pot UL HA from a 27 nests nicely in a 25 set instead of the kettle = 79 grams Trangia 0.9 litre kettle = 175 grams If you want a much lighter vessel with HA and more capacity, Trangia has you covered… with the frypan you already have a lid. If you took two, they would nest and you would still be lighter than just taking one kettle. I no longer take kettles where weight is a concern. But at the kids cricket game when boiling water for tea, the kettle just looks cool… As for plastic, that is something I would rather have less of in my life…
Probably because they wanted to - in their quest for a lighter weight of the windscreen pair. And when they finally had set the tooling up for the UL aluminium alloy windscreen production - it was easy to do it as well with the, in essence identically acting, UL HA material. Turning kettles in ULHA is probably not technically similar to doing them in the old and very established thicker and softer aluminium alloy... It's all my guess of course - if you want an answer e-mail Malin at Trangia, and I'm sure she'll ansver your question. Yes Sven, I think that is a quite common solution here in Sweden. And when that plastic handle have finally burnt away it's as it should have been from the get go - but I guess the marketing people wanted an isolation on the handle...
Anodised aluminium products are first built in raw aluminium and then go through an anodising bath as an extra step. Anything built in raw aluminium can be anodised, including kettles, if Trangia wanted to. Weight remains unchanged as it’s just a reaction with the surface of the material making it harder and much less reactive - everything else is unchanged. Litetech kettle appears the same weight as the Trangia version but is attractively priced for a HA product. If I knew about it I would have bought it instead of the Trangia kettle. Interestingly, the larger 1.5 litre litetech kettle is only 30g heavier than the smaller version, which is a similar premium as the 1.4 litre Trangia kettle. But of course they don’t nest… and pots will always be much lighter.
@Sven O Thanks for your post with the photo and info! I don't have a Litech kettle, how's the quality? In fact Trangia 25 is already enough for me but it's good to know about it And if possible the Product Country of Origin.
@Yun124 You are in luck. I checked, and to my surprise, I still have the box. Made in China, it seems. I haven't had the kettle for very long, but the quality seems very good. As mentioned, the plastic on the handle will most likely burn or melt sooner or later. Not a big problem in my opinion.
Dear @Sven O , I thank you for your prompt reply. and happy to hear the box is still remained. Maybe your home is so big to have all boxes All small simple stuffs are made in China in these days, even for this market...
