Hi, This is my new stove - Svea No 1* ( I believe, that star belongs to the name of it ). Yesterday I bought this item on a flea market in Berlin, in relatively bad shape - without flame spreader and without trivet. Was covered partially with a layer of a substance remaining old varnish or colophony - thanks God removable with aggressive solvent. NRV was in order, pump washer of course not. Passed " fire test " - works!
Hi, great find! Nos 1 and 5 are really hard to find compared to 11 and 15. It should have the beautiful and rare tubular roarer burner or at least a cross roarer, but still is a great stove from around 1910. Nicola
Hi @Stanisław Grajewski Beautiful stove. Here is a link to the silent “sister” of your stove: https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/svea-no-5-from-around-1915.4416/ I love the “blobby” text used on these models and the boast of “The Best Stove in the World” Best Regards, Kerophile.
Indeed so, and the 1924 Svea catalogue shows it exactly as you have it here. Later in the 1920s the marvellous tank top Sievert star burst and bubble fonts were superseded with much plainer markings.
@igh371 Hi Ian, why do you date this post ‘20? It has the chubby svea font and I think it’s a very early version. Nicola
Ian, To contribute/compliment your comment, model in 1924 catalog, +1 * star belongs to the name of it. ["1*" not "(*)" foot note] Sweeeet catalog btw, thank you, it fills a previously missing dating gap . Re page for No. 0*, 1*, 4* & 5*, my brief drift, these are nuovi modelli SVEA (new SVEA models), new* models, as per 1924 catalog. One main new feature is internal NRV. As for initial attempt at translation of text on the page, credit Ross: I nuovi modelli SVEA colla STELLA SVEA N. 0*, 1* 4* e 5* rumorosi — silenziosi Questi nuovi modelli SVEA “colla Stella , si distinguono dai precedenti tipi perchè la valvola della pompa, in luogo di essere fuori del recipiente, quindi smontabile, trovasi nell'interno dello stesso, immediatamente in prolungazione della pompa. In seguito a questa semplificazione, questi tipi di SVEA si avvicinano a quelli di prezzi ridotti della concorrenza € perciò possono essere forniti a un prezzo più ridotto. Nella qualità, non sono però inferiori, poichè sono curati al-pari- egli-altri tipi. Nella grandezza, nella durata, nel loro effetto, sono identici dei tipi normali. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The new SVEA models with STELLA SVEA No. 0* & 1* noisy - 4* & 5* silent These new SVEA models “with the Stella" stand out from the previous types because the pump valve, in place to be out of the container, therefore removable, is found inside it, immediately in extension of the pump. Following this simplification, these types of SVEA approach those of reduced prices of the competition and therefore can be supplied at a price more reduced. In quality, however, they are not inferior, as they are cared for on par with other types. In size, duration, in their effect, they are identical with normal types. tag @igh371
Mmm in this example we have the earliest graphics with internal nrv. The Italian catalog shows a successive graphic style, so I don’t think this stove is the one pictured on the catalog. Nicola
@snwcmpr Hi, the foot note is referred to the text above. It explains that the accessories are: funnel, a pack with 3 needles and instructions. “Modelli Colla Stella” mean “Models With Star” Nicola
I think, looking at that 1924 catalogue, that it does show the 'bubble' font even on this No.1* model which it describes as a 'new' model. In the closest preceding catalogue we have, dated 1915, the equivalent model is designated number '111*' (e.g.). It is certainly possible that this new numbering could have been introduced a year or so earlier than this 1924 catalogue and yet still have been considered 'new' in 1924, but it couldn't have been that much earlier. The change to the font you show in your example above must also have been only a little later than 1924 but we don't have the documentation at the moment to be sure exactly when. Ian
Hi Ian, mmm looking at that specific illustration of 1* the font can look like the bubble one, but all the other stoves on the catalog show the newer font like on my stove. Could be a mistake with this last illustration of the 1*? Do you know (I don’t) if F&M distributed stoves after 1920? The original post example has F&M on filler. Then, do you think that in mid 1920 the word Patent was still on some stove tanks? Thanks for any clarification, Nicola
This early no 1 without external valve is driving me crazy ahahah I didn’t notice that when I first commented on this thread. Nicola
I start to think that some of the pages of this 1924 catalog could be a reprint of older catalogs… tubular silent burner still available in 1924? Nicola UPDATE Well, most of the illustrations are the same present in the 1915 catalog. The one of the star model has been “updated” to include the new trivet. So at this point this 1924 catalog cannot be a real reference for the graphic of the period. By looking at the pen marks next to some of the items in the price list we can agree that probably these catalogs were used to order common stoves or spares, not to showcase the exact models. By ordering the “silent burner” you probably were receiving the available silent burner of that period, not the tubular one as per illustration. So for me this Italian version of catalog/price list is not a catalog I can take as reference for 1924 products. Nicola
Nicola’s stove shows the star stamped on the tank next to the 1: [ @Nicola Francesco Elia ] Stanislaw’s stove has no star and the 1 is a different font: [ @Stanisław Grajewski ] Cheers Tony
Oh, thank you. So, not the same stove, sold with different accessories, but a whole different stove. Ken
Hi @Tony Press , also if not really visible the star is present in Stanislaw No 1: But I think this version is earlier than 1924. Unfortunately we have a big hole in Svea docs, between 1915 and 1930, so it’s always hard to be precise. In my opinion my trivet is the key to date mine in mid 20s, as Svea 25, 26 etc that use the same trivet. The Stanislaw one is way earlier than mine, probably we would see it in a 1918-1919 catalog if available. Nicola
There must be several incarnations of the No.1*. The example I have , which has a replaced burner ( I’d imagine) has a bakelite pump rod end and is a strange stove ! Svea No.1 - 1940s?
