Phoebus 1

Hi.
Recently, I became interested in classic camp stoves.
Thanks to the advice of the participants of this forum, I learned to repair and operate this type of stove. One of my first acquisitions was Phoebus.
I failed to find out when it was produced.
Please let me know about the production date.
All the best.






Cześć.
Ostatnio zainteresowałem się klasycznymi piecami obozowymi.
. Dzięki radom uczestników tego forum nauczyłem się naprawiać i obsługiwać tego typu piec. Jednym z moich pierwszych nabytków był Phoebus.
nie udało mi się
dowiedz się, kiedy został wyprodukowany.
Proszę o informację odnośnie daty produkcji.
Wszystkiego najlepszego

 

Hi, looking at the logo, your phoebus 1 could be dated WWII period, 1939-1945 circa.

Nicola

 

How is this stove's name pronounced?

foobus?

 

Thanks to Nikola for the quick reply and the improved translation. The cap of the burner also has the inscription Made on Austria.

Kind regards
Stanisław

 

The early name Phöbus should be pronounced “Fobus”, when it became Phoebus the pronounce should be “Febus”. At least with Latin pronounce.

Nicola

 

Ti be more precise:

Phöbus is the German word to name Febo, Apollo, Sole.

Phoebus is in latin.

Nicola

 

May I...?
Stanisławie, jeżeli używasz https://translate.google.pl/?sl=pl&tl=en&op=translate
lub innego translatora - to najprawdopodobniej wklejasz tekst podwójnie tłumaczony...
polski tłumaczony z angielskiego...

 

Apollo the god of the Sun:



Apollo is also known by the name of Phoebus (Febo). This term derives from the word "phoibos" which means "pure", "bright", "shining".

Nicola

 

Does it say "Made in Austria" or "Made in Germany"?

PW

 

@abbahco1 on the tank top it doesn’t seem to have any text apart Phoebus, so no Made in Austria or Made in Germany, we don’t know about bottom plate.

In any case the MJR logo is post 1934 (older logo is visible on the available brochures from 1934).

On my Steel 1F dated January 38 and Made in Austria (on bottom only) there is this same logo, so we could be more precise and I would say that it could be dated 38-45… probably is a transition model of 1938 period, when Austria was annexed to Germany.

Nicola

 

In German, the name would be pronounced something like "Fooebus", a little "oo" along with the "e" (there's no exact equivalent in English). and whether spelled "Phoebus" or with the umlaut above the "o", "Phöbus" (both spellings are equivalent in German) the pronunciation would be exactly the same. Peter

 

Hi Nicola: I've been really impressed by many of your knowledgeable posts, so greetings for the first time. I was one of the originals here when Ross created the original site and contributed some of the original information based on my observations collecting from 1966 to the present. I posed my question because from 1938-1945, when Austria was under German control, the stamp on the top of the tank was specifically changed from "Made in Austria" to "Made in Germany", as is clear from a few nos. 1 & 5 that I own from that time. On later stoves (including some that appear to be from the 50s or 60s - one has a recessed filler cap, which was a Primus patent in 1924) the stamp reverts to "Made in Austria". Peter

 

@abbahco1

Hi Peter, I should thank all you old time members because my knowledge is all taken from this forum Sometimes the pieces must be put together but here there is a lot of useful information distributed during the years.

Returning to the 1938 argument… Austria was annexed to Germany on March 12 1938. From around that date the Phoebus stoves were marked Made in Germany, as you explained.

My Phoebus 1F is dated January 1938 and still Made in Austria. So for me the 1938 is a transitional moment when we could have both the Made in Austria and Made in Germany examples.

Nicola

 

I am sending a picture with the inscription

 

Not sure when this version of logo appeared after 1934, but the timeframe is anyway short 1935-1938 for the above evidences.

Nicola

 

@Knee
Do you see if there is any number on the bottom plate? Thanks

Nicola

 

So it is marked Made in Austria, it wasn’t really visible on the initial photos.

So window is post 1934 pre March 1938.

I asked Knee about stamped numbers on bottom plate. Let’s see if he can share an additional photo.

Nicola

 

Just for sharing, during 1934 this logo version was still in use:



On Knee stove we have the newer one:



Nicola

 

hm...

and ... ?

 

@gieorgijewski mmm this is fun

My made in Austria, same as Knee stove, same logo, different filler, on bottom C46, maybe 1946? It returned Made in Austria after the end of the war?



Nicola