Coleman Xpert modification

Diskussion i 'Fettling Forum' startad av litetrek, 3 december 2011.

  1. litetrek

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    I have several of the Coleman Xpert stoves and I would like to modify one of them to use "standard" canisters so I would end up with something link the MSR windpro (I have a windpro and don't especially like it as much as the very sturdy coleman). My plan is to cut the fuel line or remove the band that holds it on and replace the existing valve assembly with an MSR valve or something similar. I'll take it to the autoparts store or smilar to get the hose crimped onto the new valve. The problem is I can't find a used MSR stove for sale anywhere and I can't find any other alternate. Brunton sold a stove stand i could use for parts but those have been discontinued and nobody has them. plus2city sells a spare hose with valve that might work but I'm afraid the quality will be low due to the low price. Any ideas for a part source would be appreciated. I really really like this stove and want to continue using it. Refilling is way too much trouble and the adaptor that coleman sells is a) way overpriced and b) makes an already too heavy stove heavier. I am a lightweight back packer so weight matters to me. I'm confident my plan is easily doable...but I am very frustrated trying to find a part without essentially buying a new stove just for the part I need.
     
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    They're cheap but quality's not bad. I've several in use and they're holding up fine. As you say, it'd be a pity to sacrifice another stove just for the control valve

    Adaptoring


    Fuel hose crimping

    Crimping


    John
     
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  3. RonPH

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    I would not rely on the plus2city hose but the valve works well.

    Ron
     
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    I remember you said in a post that the inner core (rubber) wall is thin - 1/2 millimetres I think you said, Ron. Don't know if you had a rogue one, but the ones I've been using have had a more robust inner than that, nearer 1 mm thickness.

    That said, just the valve is needed for litetrek's project, so no worries there.

    John
     
  5. RonPH

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    John, must have been a rouge. Then again a piece of the sharp braid is enough to pierce that hose :shock:

    Ron
     
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    Hi
    The plus2city hose has been revised at least once that I know of, since I first bought one many moons ago to refill a globetrotter.
    The overall diameter of the hose is now much bigger than it was.
    I bought one recently to replace the one used Here.


    I had snapped off the pin that engages the lindal valve in the cartridge. ](*,)
    The new one was spot on.

    Funny how the stove that won't burn paraffin is, must be an optical ilusion. ;)
     
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  7. litetrek

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    Wow ... a superb design. I may try something similar or at least keep the idea in my head for reference.
     
  8. litetrek

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    was referring to ronph's "crimping link" in that last post from me. Thanks for the ideas and comments. does ordering from the vendor I mentioned generally work out? Also, I'm not stuck on the plan I came up with to modify my stove. Its just the best idea I could come up with. I would invite any other ideas and or possible part sources. The price is right on the one I mentioned but its probably a little heavy compared to an aluminum valve.
     
  9. litetrek

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    cant seem to get anything right today ... I should have said presscall's crimping link.
     
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    Funny thing, but the last order I placed for two hoses/valves didn't reach me though I'd given it the full extent of the maximum possible delivery time the vendor had quoted - about three weeks.

    I emailed him and straight away got a reply and a full refund, with a polite request to pay up if the goods arrived eventually. They haven't so I'm about to order some more.

    John
     
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  11. DaveD

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    keep your eye open - they sell adapters for this. I just bought one off the "bay" for under $20. I have not used it yet but it looks like a good piece of equipement, all metal to boot.

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    Thanks for the adapter info I've seen them online but haven't seen one in a store for a few years. Coleman doesn't list a weight for them. I'm a backpacker and I like this stove because pots stay on it and it isn't easily knocked over. But its a bit heavy for backpacking (my lightest stove weighs 3.5 ounces) and adding the adapter makes it a little heavier. A little heavier I could live with but I don't want to risk buying the adaptor only to find it weighs 3 or 4 ounces.
     
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    Good grief. That comment makes me realise that the lightweight revolution has comprehensively passed me by.

    3 or 4 extra pounds I might baulk at.


    John Heavytrek
     
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  14. litetrek

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    I carry gear for two people because my wife has a bad back and can't go otherwise. My pack is usually pretty heavy (hardly ultralight)and its hard to keep the weight manageable without paying attention to ounces. I probably have a 3 pound stove in my "stove museum" if I wanted something heavy to carry. Anyhow you have given me some useful help which I appreciate.