A beautiful stove in impressive condition. Can anyone offer any information at all? I have found information pertaining to a two burner 5004 from the early 1930s however that appears to be a kero stove. Does anyone know any further info that may relate to this particular model?
Looks like a alcohol stove. Does look very nice, great colour. It was on trade me a few times Geeves, you could have found this one.
Such a very pretty stove with the typical green enamel found on many French stoves. You have taken plenty of good photos to show us the detail. Something about the Lilor company can be found here. Your cast iron pan trivet is upside down, as can be seen on this French Mélius kerosene stove with a similar trivet. You can also see trivets on iani's double Lilor stove.
Yes you are correct, it was listed on trademe 3 times and got passed up each time. The price came down steadily until it was affordable. It was a pleasant surprise when it arrived, it had been kept in an old tin box ( with all the original accessories) for many, many decades. I imagine that's why it remained in such good order without any parts lost.
Apologies to everyone. It's been a long time since i last attempted to submit a post on this site. A bit more use and hopefully I will be able to get my responses where they should be in relation to individual comments. Thanks to everyone for helping me find out more....and it does look much better with the trivet turned over. I'm burning white spirits in the above shots. Similar to Coleman fuel here in NZ, would that be the correct fuel for that type of burner?
Burning that well on white gas probably means its the right fuel. Those burners wouldnt vaporise kero well enough and the mixture would be far to lean running meths. Worried though about the air bleed in the filler cap. Also dont fill above the pump line in case of nrv failure.
Thank you for the valued input geeves, the filler cap is a three piece unit that contains a non-return valve to prevent exhausting of pressure when the tank is pumped using the original separate pump pictured. The piece on top that appears to look like an air bleed screw only has to be unscrewed a 1/4 of a turn and it will allow pressure to be pumped into the tank. A brass ball bearing within the valve prevents the pressure coming back out. Exhausting pressure from the tank after use is possible by unscrewing slightly the main larger part of the filler cap. My knowledge is limited but this appears to be how it all works. Have also added a pic with the trivet fitting correctly....much more pleasing to the eye.
that makes a lot more sense. I thought the pump attached to the thing on the end of the tank. Is that just a safety valve?
Hi geeves, yes I'm pretty sure that's the safety valve on the end of the tank. Written on it is "valve de surete", I'm assuming that may be French for safety or security.???
I remember seeing this on Trade Me, great looking stove. When it went I was kicking myself for not going for it, but I had an Aida 100 on the go at the time. Which I got just last week :-)
Since initially posting this topic I've been able to do a bit more reserch on the Lilor. Iv'e found a 1929 Lilor catalogue here: http://www.ultimheat.com/Museum/section2/1929 Lilor.pdf It clearly shows this stove is a model #4552. Fitted with a different burner to the #5003. The catalogue says the #4552 is made to burn "d'essence" (Gasoline in French translation?). The #5003 is made to burn "de' petrole" (petrolium)Two totaly different burners. I am assuming that both models shared the same cast metal frames hence why my cooker has "5003" cast into the frame underneath. Sounds feasible, alternatively someone at some stage may have swapped burners??? Any thoughts appreciated?
That catalogue is great. Looking at the No.4552 in the catalogue, it seems I was wrong and you were right. The catalogue shows the cast iron pan holder in the position you originally had it - unless the catalogue artists got it wrong.
You weren't all wrong. The catalogue states that the pan holders are reversible, so either way is just as correct.
