Great choice Sarah. Happy campers! A photo should be added to that sequence of the Primus, the van, you and Simon. John
I recently bought one just because. And it was really cheap but rusty and fully functional. A lightweight suitcase with decent stability made by combining two "big Lindal canister" stoves in one semi-foldable tin box. Quite portable and still fully useable today - Primus still markets that general design in the Onja stove.
@Harder D. Soerensen And not bad condition for the BIN price. The original canister seals were hard, but there were a couple of suitable o rings in the selection box. The canisters are small 170g mixed gas sold for blow torches, just to have a working stove. I'll eventually do as @presscall has done and pick up the larger canisters and refill. The 2222 are regular visitors at Newark which is probably where I first saw one. I had hoped to find one in the wild bit one popped up on the Bay during an infrequent look.
The box graphics are definitely of the era, and there seems to be at least a couple of versions about. Whether country specific I'm unsure. I thought the embossed label with numbering inside the lid may give a hint to manufacturing date but it seems not. Steve (Shed man) kindly uploaded an image which is identical to the label in this example. DG 19-8333 SBI F-8071. Acronims and the numbering they represent allude me.
Rather than clutter up the photo comp thread with technicalities I thought it better to report the gas supply fault finding here. @presscall. The canisters themselves seem to have defective valves as neither of them will work on a blowtorch head when fitted. GoSystems badged.
@Simes @Sarah Foley Got the Bilious Yellow lantern to go with the 2222. The lantern is designed solely for large Primus gas canister the 2222 was meant to take - a smaller contemporary type would work but the plastic housing would have to be discarded. John
That looks in good condition John. I'm not entirely sure I'll be hunting one down, but you never know. Though things do seem to turn up when you're not actually looking.
Hi John, @presscall. I've attached a standard C500 cyclinder and the stove works quite happily, sadly it's 11cm dia, and the case will not close with one fitted. The original cyclinder you are fortunate to have is I would assume 10cm. Are you aware of current equivalents? I'm only asking as all the shops are now closed preventing running around with a rule. I have a suspicion that the larger general purpose cylinders are that size. And another thought has struck me, are the domed cylinders for mixed gases with the conical ones for butane only?
@Simes Forget about ‘butane only’. The 2222 won’t baulk at a mixture of butane and propane. It surely wasn’t that that brought your firing to a halt. What sometimes happens is that the pin in the valve connector in some makes of burners isn’t quite long enough to depress (activate) the valve in certain brands of gas cart, but will in others. Though wrong to screw on a gas cart with very much torque - lightly compressing the O-ring in the connector is sufficient to make the seal - with those stove/gas cart incompatible pairings it’s possible to get the valve to activate some times and not on other occasions. The margin between valve activation and not can be that marginal. When the stove heats up and the gas cart cools down due to evaporative cooling can de-activate the cart valves due to a mis-match of thermal expansion rates. Line-up, left to right: large butane/propane mix (11cm diameter cartridge); Primus butane cart for the 2222 (10cm dia); isopropane large (less than 10cm dia); isopropane small (ditto). I’d be happy using the ones on the right to power the 2222, provided the stove connector pins activate the cart valves reliably. John
I had a portable air horn with the same lindal valve. The actuation button simply pushed down a pin which opened the valve in the canister. As received, the pin wouldn't open the valve when the button was depressed. To get it to work, I had to tighten the canister much further than I'd have liked to, bringing the valve closer to the pin. Wouldn't advise that level of over tightening for a stove, but for an $8 air horn for an office prank, I was willing to risk such a bodge.
I’ve got a canister valve to work by inserting a ‘spacer’ in the valve before screwing the appliance onto it. A 2mm length of 1.5mm wire, a very small steel ball, something like that.
@presscall, John I've given up on the carts, I'm even having trouble getting the valve to open even pushing a nail into them. I doubt I could even use them as refill donors, will just have to wait till the shops reopen in a couple of months. I did try and insert a spacer bit couldn't force such a small piece past the upper seal.
