Primus What?

Diskussion i 'Other Models' startad av algentry1, 3 november 2008.

  1. algentry1

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    Hi there.

    This is a Primus stove that I won on eBay tonight. The seller has gone offline, and never said what it is. He did say that it says "Primus" on the tank, with the little stove logo in the middle of the word. So, it's a silent Primus "something"

    The pictures are poor...I don't have the stove here to look at yet, as I just won it tonight. Anybody know what this is? Can you tell from the photos? Please feel free to guess. :) I have no idea...

    Thanks
    Al


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    Hi Al, Your stove looks to be a bog-standard 2 pint capacity, brass tank, silent burner, kerosene stove.

    If it is marked up as a Primus, with the logo, then that is what it likely is.

    Like Gary, I think it is a Primus 5, but I have never seen a Primus fitted with plastic plugs on the ends of the feet, nor a 2-pint Primus with that form of air-inlet valve.

    On their larger, 2-pints and over, capacity stoves, a separate filler cap is on the top of the nozzle and the air-release valve is mounted on the side of the same nozzle.

    The stove should fettle up well.

    Please let us know what turns up.

    Best Regards,
    Kerophile.
     
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    Hi,

    I was hoping it to be a No. 5, but like George, I'm struck by the differences, as well as the similarities. I spent quite some time looking at Primus stoves in the gallery before bidding, but just couldn't come up with any solid clues. The filler cap vent really put me off. :-k :?
    Thanks,

    Best Regards,
    Al
     
  4. Bom Bom Bom Bom

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    Hi Kerophile, at the risk of going into smug git mode, might I suggest it's a Primus 53 nickel plated steel tank 2 pinter, as illustrated in the 1930 catalogue you posted yesterday :lol:

    This appears to show exactly this type of filler cap/pressure release arrangement.
     
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    Here's what the seller finally has to say;

    Thank you for your purchase. There do not appear to be any numbers on the tank anywhere. I will be sending your Stove out this Thursday morning.

    Looks like I won't be able to see it til next week. :frown: 8)
    Ye Gads, what have I done??? :lol: :lol: :lol:


    Best, Al


    PS EDIT... Now this from the Seller again..

    Hello-
    I can't find "Made in Sweden" anywhere. It only has "Primus" and Pri-(logo)-Mus" and Mfg. Trade Mark.
    this one is different than any other one I have ever seen. Thanks again for your purchase.

    Bruce
     
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  6. Bom Bom Bom Bom

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    Hi Al,

    I wonder if it's just a Primus pan ring that's been put on another stove then?
     
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    Graham,

    No, he said it says PRI-(STOVE LOGO)-MUS on the tank, and MFG TRADE MARK. (In a previous letter, last night)


    If it turns out to be junk, I can use it to learn to solder.. ;)

    Best,
    Al
     
  8. Bom Bom Bom Bom

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    The mystery deepens. Well, I guess we'll all have to wait to see what your really got then :-k
     
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    Graham,

    Probably a PrabHat. [-o< [-o< [-o< :lol: :lol: :lol:


    Best,
    Al
     
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    Hi Bom X4. The mystery stove is a 2-pint stove.
    The Primus 50 series are 1.75 pint "rounded-tank", or "discus-shaped" stoves.
    Regards,
    Kerophile.
     
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    Another option is that the mystery stove could be one of those manufactured in South Africa during the years of the trade embargo. This would fit in with the colour on the pot ring supports, and teh rubber feet. It will be interesting to see if the font is all brass or steel, if the brand is stamped or raised, if there are remains of a diamond shaped decal on the side. The cap on the pump assembly had a bayonet type fitting.

    Fr Laurence
     
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    "Another option is that the mystery stove could be one of those manufactured in South Africa during the years of the trade embargo."

    That's what has been running through my mind. I remember reading about one of those on here before, that someone on CCS had bought, I just don't remember who it was. I'll go do a search in a minute. The seller decided to ship today instead of Thursday, as he's discovered I paid already. :o :)

    EDIT: Removed Embargo question...suddenly I remembered the UN Embargo. I apologize to S.A. members for memory lapse.

    Thanks,
    Best,
    Al
     
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    Hi Bom x 4. I was looking at Primus No.1 photos in the Reference section today.
    I found this:

    https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/749

    A very early Primus 2-pint stove with the air-release built into the top of the filler cap!

    You learn something new every day.
    Aren't stoves fascinating?

    Best Regards,
    Kerophile.
     
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  14. Bom Bom Bom Bom

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    Hi Kerophile,

    That does look similar to Al's stove. Ref. your earlier post I did notice the more discus style of the 5x series of stoves in the catalogue you posted but wondered how much artistic licence was used in preparing the drawings. However, as over the last week a few seem to have come out of the woodwork it's obvious the shape of the 5x is entirely different to Al's. So far from being a "smug git" I'll have to relabel myself as a "smug wrong git"! Of course, not the first time and probably won't be the last!
     
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    Folks,

    Interesting point though, is that, the "cap vented" style of filler neck existed in the larger type Primus stoves as far back as 1911 and, from the 1930s for sure.


    Best,
    Al
     
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    This is a great "Cliff-Hanger".

    Can't wait to see what the stove is! :D
     
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    Well, well, well..

    The stove came today. Now, I REALLY don't know what it is. I have to leave tis to the more experienced among us.

    1. Steel Tank, Nickel or Chrome

    2. Large vented cap, with vent hole drilled on an angle into the screw channel, from top of cap

    3. Primus markings stamped into tank, not raised

    4. Aluminum pump workings with synthetic bucket

    5. Normal looking brass NRV

    6. Silent burner, marked * PRIMUS * SWEDEN * No 4138 S * LICENSE*

    7. No stove number following the "PRIMUS" stamp on top of the tank

    8. No numbers or letters on tank bottom

    :-k :-k :-k 8)

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    My guess is that it is manufacturered by a licensee overseas. AS to who that was, I will have to demure.
     
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    Gary,

    Looks like this thread died out. Now, we'll never know what it is. :frown: I ordered some rust remover online and I'm going to try to get it going. If I can, I'll post a picture.


    Best,
    Al
     
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    I think the likelihood is that this is a foreign made stove, made under licence, as has been suggested. It doesn't look like any of the African ones I've seen. South America?