Hi, I have just joined your forum. This is the first forum I've ever joined so apologies if get any of the etiquette wrong. I have a 111 running on paraffin. It's done all my cooking and heating of water for the past 6 months. It's been superb - so much so that I brought another one as back up. The only problem I have with the stove is the tank gets hot. After 10 minutes or so of running it's too hot to keep your hand on so I tend to turn it off at that point. Is this a normal part of the stoves operation? I do tend to run it flat out as this gives a nice blue flame. Its a roarer burner, by the way. I have searched this forum as a guest but can find no mention of tanks getting hot. Thanks in advance for any replies. Regards Karl
@Vanman Do you have a heat shield on your 111? Are you using a big pot that completely covers the tank? Tony
Hi, Yes the heat shield is intact and fitted to the stove. The pan I use isn't overly large. To my eye it looks a sensible size to sit on the supporting legs. I do mostly use the stove indoors - maybe this is a factor? Regards Karl
@Vanman That sound ok to me. The tank gets hot with use. I’d not worry unless it starts to scream or the pressure release valve vents. Tony
Thankyou for your advice - Now I know they all do that I can worry less and cook more Thanks again Karl
There must be something different that one gets hotter than the other. Can you post photos? We like photos.
I'm parked up now making a cuppa so here's the stove in action - It's used probably 8 times a day everyday - I wonder if a build up of carbon would make the tank heat up - Tony Press didn't seem to think it was a problem so I'm not so bothered anymore - I'll give it a good clean and fettle when I can and see if that makes any difference. Regards Karl
I am not disagreeing with Tony. It is just odd that the 2 are acting differently. I am wondering what is different between the two. Curious, too, what size of pot? What diameter do you use?
Ah I see - no I'm not saying there's a difference between the two. I haven't had the new one going yet. I just wanted to know if the tanks were supposed to get hot as I'd never seen it mentioned. Pictured is the pan I use and the posh new stove. I'll get the new one going then I can work on the tatty one. sorry for any confusion caused regards Karl
First, welcome to the forum! Now, could be serious, better mail them both to me for a few months so I can see what I think. I don't see any scorching on the heat shield or tank in the pictures, that's a good sign. You must be letting it cool before you close it- good again. You will see stoves with the box paint burnt from closing it to hot. Looks good from the pics. Ivan
Welcome to CCS @Vanman. Hot fuel’s not going to reach anywhere near the melting point of soft solder and a 111 has silver (hard) soldered joints so nothing’s going to let go. John
Hi Ivan, thanks. Ha yes I can mail them to you no problem but you'll have to send enough money so I can eat out whilst you have them! I do always let it cool before shutting the lid as I've seen scorch marks too. I've also seen ones that look like the whole things been up in flames hence I'm still a bit cautious of it. regards Karl
Hi John, Thanks for the reassurance. I know these stoves have a great reputation I'm just fairly new to them and everything I do know about them I've got from the internet - all my friends use gas. I just needed to know that hot tanks aren't a problem. Regards Karl
@Vanman , Welcome to CCS, Sir!! You have two excellent stoves, and having the pair of them makes for a very versatile setup! Well done! The new one, with the light blue paint, is older than the first one. You'll want to make sure to change out the NRV and SRV pips, as well as the fuel cap gaskets, before firing your new stove, and hey, check the ones in the first one you got, too, just to play it safe. I'd also check the leather pump bucket, and oil, or replace, as necessary. I haven't fired up a 111 in quite some time, but I don't recall the tanks getting so hot I could not touch them. Could be wrong about that, as it has been a long while, and sometimes the old memory just ain't up to snuff!! BTW, I was just in your neck of the woods, more or less, whilst working in Shaftesbury, and then in Torquay! Lovely areas, both!! Again, welcome to the forum, and have a great time here. If you're "into" stoves, then this is the place for you!! Take care, thanks for sharing your exellent 111's, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc
Hello Doc, Thanks for the warm welcome. I did replace the NRV on the green one however I'm noticing paraffin coming up the pump shaft so I guess it needs doing again. I'm guessing by SRV you mean the safety valve in the cap. I must confess I've not touched that. I frequently start from scratch when I pump it up - I figured over-pumping was the only way to over pressurize it? At first I thought Torquay is miles away! On reflection it is close by in internet land. I do love the south west area. Much more relaxed pace of life. Regards Karl
Hi, Vanman, You are very welcome, Sir. Yes, the "SRV" is the "safety release valve", and it should probably be replaced, so that, IF over-pressure does take place, the stove will vent safely, and not cause problems. There is plenty of information on how to service the NRV, here on CCS, and it's not a hard thing to do, once you know what needs be done. As to your first 111 now leaking kero, yes, those need to be checked once a year, and more, if you are using the stove as often as you seem to be doing. Easy-peasy, and well worth becoming a part of your regular maintenance cycle on both stoves. As to Torquay and Cornwall being "close together", you are right: only on paper does it appear that way! But, let's say, whilst we were in Torquay, we were MUCH closer to Cornwall (where my wife has visited quite a few times) than when I'm here in the States!! Perspective is a wonderful thing!! Thanks, again, for sharing your stoves, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc
After seeing this thread I decided to dust off one of my 111's and make a nice espresso, just to see if the tank gets hot. Not too much just from making the coffee but if I used it to make my whole breakfast, yes the tank was hot. I don't think you have anything to worry about, they're designed to take it.
I see a nice shiny pot on it those reflect much heat back at tank and case my only attempt at using stainless steel cookware on an 8r resulted in the unnistakeable smell of burning paint from tin has discoloured the stove badly ive since used a copper base 12 inch frypan on it and things didnt get stupidly hot
