Hi Men, I've been experimenting with Jolt Cola aluminum bottles to create a light weight Trangia clone. This is what I've come up with. It's filled with fiberglass insulation and a piece of stainess steel strainer fills the opening. I'm working on a gasket that will keep the cap (not shown) from leaking. I was feeling pretty good about myself, when I found this: A 35 gram Trangia-Like Titanium Alcohol Stove There isn't a screw on lid, but it is claimed to be very efficient. What do you think? All the best, Manny
Nice work Manny! It looks like it has the inner wall? I made one with a 24 oz can and inner wall with a little bit of insulation in the wall space and it worked fine as did one without the fiberglass. They "semi-self pressurize" like a trangia. There are some energy drink cans with screw on lids, but I can't tell you the name, just know I had seen one. Bet you could put the finishing touch on one with that type of can. Best, Randy
I've been meaning to experiment with an energy drink can from a company by the name of "Venom", a Dr Pepper/7up subsidiary. The can material is considerably thicker than aluminium soda cans, almost to the same thickness as a Sigg or MSR fuel bottle. It will not deflect from finger pressure and it has a screw top. Overall height of the drink can is 7.5" X 2.5" and the screw top is apporx 1.25" in dia. Cans are 500ml or 16.9 oz. capacity. Ought to make a much more durable alcohol stove than the standard drink can. Best, Bob
Morning, Manny, Very nice job, Brother! Well done, and nice shots of your handiwork, too! I look forward to hearing about any field trials you conduct with your new stove, and bet it will work well for you. Bob, if you get some positive results from your "Venom" stove experiments, I do like the idea of a screw-on cap for such a stove. Please keep us posted. Thanks to you both, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc
Hi Men, Randy, There isn't an inner wall on this one, just the insulation. (No lip that will hold the wall securely). The jets had to be placed up high in hopes that the lid will hold alcohol. There is a plastic gasket in the lid that I'll replace with nitrile or an O ring. Bob, I'll keep a lookout for those Venom bottles. I get manny of my energy drink bottles from my students. I prefer not to drink that stuff. Yuk! Doc, It's always great to hear from you. I'm glad that you had a safe and enjoyable trip with SB. The Jolt Stove doesn't fit in the Trangia's opening. I placed it on the ground beneath my 77 clone(it's tall), and it preformed well in limited testing (at home). The flame pattern is narrow and it doesn't appear to burn as hot as a proper Trangia burner. It has 16 jets as compared to a trangia's 23. I'm still working on it. What did you all think of the Titanium trangia in the link? Cheers, Manny
Hey, Brother Manny, Thanks, very much, for your nice comments! I always enjoy your posts, and your great sense of adventure and creativity! Yes, we had an enjoyable trip, though long and more than a little tiring. Still, it was successful, and quite enjoyable, too, and so, well worth the effort and work. As to the titanium "Trangia", I am impressed, but again, not impressed. I don't know how to explain it, but I feel titanium is overused in too many things, most of which do not really benefit from having used it. Yes, it is lighter, indeed. But, to me, that's about the sum of titanium's positive addition to most things that make use of it. It has some negatives, too, one of the largest of which is price. To me, I think the regular, old, tried-and-true Trangia burner is the Dog's Bollocks, just as it is!! With the addition of the Trangia sliding simmering plate, I can get burn times that run up to an hour, or more, with the regular Trangia burner. I have yet to see even ONE popcan stove, or Trangia clone, that can do that! With the addition of a good popcan stove to my Trangia kit, I can have super fast boiling, AND a very long simmer time, both of which are very important to me, which no other such stove can offer. So, to me, whilst the titanium "Trangia" is interesting, I would never be interested enough to spring for one. I'll just continue being a Stove Curmugeon and use my Trangia kits, most of the time with a popcan stove tossed in, too. They are simple, reliable, and do what they are meant to do, with no muss, no fuss, and that endears them to me!! I was late coming to enjoy the Trangia Tribe, but now that I have used them a good bit, I love them, and won't be tossing them over for some new passing fancy, titanium, or no!! 8) Talk to you later, my Friend, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc
Good looking burner Manny. On the Trangia burner you referenced it appears that any weight benefits are nulled out by the fact you've got to carry a fuel bottle. If you've got to carry a fuel bottle anyway then efficiency isn't an issue as you can just carry more fuel. However, weight might be more important to some people than me. Personally I'd rather carry a 96 style stove than a Trangia anyday - far more compact dismantled and more room for decent food than a full Trangia outfit (although I guess we're only talking burners here). One thought about all this ultralight stuff - as someone who's never used them it occurs to me that these lightweight burners wouldn't be exactly rugged and possibly easily accidently crushed (especially given my own clumsiness). Not sure I'd want my life to depend on something that might prove a bit fragile? Cheers, Graham.
Hi, Men, I was thinking about this Trangia burner thread, and seemed to remember something that may, or may not, be interesting, if it does prove to be true. Somewhere in the dark, cobwebbed recesses of my mind, I seem to remember that one of our fine Canadian members once sent me a Trangia burner actually made from aluminum!! Hummm.... Did that actually happen, or am I just dreaming it up??? I am not sure, I'm sad to say. Anyone remember such an animal actually having been made?? I'm thinking this one might have been made by Sigg, for some strange reason. Of course, I could be remembering it wrong, and the only way to find out is to take a good hot cup of Earl Grey (decaf, these days...) down into the Hobbit Hole, and began to rifle through the myriad boxes found down there!! No time today, but something I'll most certainly have to undertake soon. If anyone knows about the actual availability of Trangia-type burners, made entirely of aluminum, please shed a little light on this. Thanks, very much, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc
Texas: The Venom bottles work very nicely indeed. I made one a few months ago - a clone of one of the many "cut-off-and-put-the-neck-down-into-the-base" type stoves that one sees on Ebay. It is sturdy and works just fine. Sorry....don't have a picture. Haven't posted in a while. Nice to see such informative threads. Pete
