colman stove

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  1. steve1

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    hi could someone please tell me what model of stove I have ,I am new to stoves ,but I have been fooling with lanterns for a while,thanks much in advance.

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  2. BernieDawg Banned

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    Hi Steve
    Welcome aboard! There are a goodly number of stovies on CCS that are way better than me at the Coleman ID. But, just for funsies, I'm gonna guess a 417.

    No doubt someone else will be along shortly to correct me if I've got it wrong.

    Looks like a good burner, that's for sure. Have fun with your beauty.

    Cheers,
    Gary
     
  3. wyatt

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    Ooh, that is an old one! There should be a decal or stamped section right under the carry handle. It looks like my friend's 412B.
     
  4. Takeshi

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    Hello.

    Does it has folding legs?
    I think older stove always seems to be made very well.
    Your's are nice too.

    TS
     
  5. kellyblues

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    A 417 had a black fuel tank.

    I would say it's a 413C 1947-1950 because of the burner maifold.

    Kelly
     
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    It looks to be a predecessor of the 413C. (I just posted pics of a 413C in the Action Gallery). The case is the same, but it's the same odd green as a 417B. The 413C does not have cast iron burners or the special alloy tank. My guess would be from the 1930's.
    You're lucky that the tank seals well. The tank cap uses a lead washer instead of a rubber one.
     
  7. BernieDawg Banned

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    Hmmmmmm.

    Well. like I say, I'm sure you Coleman fellers know better than me.

    I gotta say it seems kinda funny that Steve's stove has the same style strap type fold down legs, the same special alloy copper colored tank, the same sort of wind flaps fastened the same way and the same sort of burner in cast iron with the same sort of unique burner plates as my Coleman three-burner 418. Now, if I got that right, it was made in 1938. The same year the 417 two-burner was made. Right? I suppose the factory could have been cranking out black tanks, too. Just seems funny, though.

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    I'm sure you know better as these really aren't my bag. Maybe some pictures could clarify your points?

    Oh. It's the same weird green, too. :lol:

    Cheers,
    Gary
     

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  8. mbechtel

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    Wow Gary! Awesome to see that 418 running. Looks great!
    Hi Steve, I looked at your pics a little closer and your stove appears to actually be a little smaller...more like a 425/417B size, but hard to tell from just the pics. It's got the legs of a 413C and like Gary's 418, but it doesnt have the towel bar, so I'm thinking it's the smaller version and contemporary with Gary's 418. Is there any trace of the decal by the handle? That is the only place the model number would appear.
     
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    Hi All,

    I'm guessing early 40's , definately pre-WWII, as it has a cast iron manifold and the legs are strap metal type , not wired, but the 413C , late 40's has strap legs, but a steel manifold (post WWII) and dark brown tank - this stove's tank has the "Sunshine of the Night" logo and is gold colored. The 418 has front mounted fuel control knobs, while this one pictured has a side mounted control, so I'm thinking later than the 418. The 417B (40-43) had wire legs and side mounted fuel control for aux. burner, so it seems Coleman might have gone to the side control in early 40's - I think this is an early 40's but no later than '43 stove.

    But unless you have catalogues or are a very knowledgeable Coleman person , it's very difficult to pin down the exact model # of this type coleman 2 burner when no decal is present

    Tom

    P.S. Maybe Mr. flivver can help :) Help Mike !
     
  10. flivver United States

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    Hi All: Sorry to disappoint you Tom but I am really not sure. Steve are the bodies of the burners cast or stamped? With the bronze tank it may be a 416B(39'-40'). Garry as Kelly said the 417 had a black tank. With a few exceptions they switched to cast manifolds after the war. If the burners are cast I would say pre war. The green paint started in 37'. I would say late 30's to very early 40's. Several Coleman models of that era looked very similar. Gary I like your 3 burner, Coleman's first, cool!!! note generator on far left ( 418 & 418B only) Mike...
     
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    From the looks of it, it is almost exactly the same as the 412B stove I've seen. Same color, same tank, same burner, same legs. Do a search for the pics I've posted of that stove.
     
  12. flivver United States

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    Sorry: I meant to say Coleman switched to steel stamped and tube manifolds after the war. Wyatt may be right the 412 and 416 are very similar as are other models of that period. Mike...
     
  13. steve1

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    The burners are cast.so many replys thanks everybody,if I can't find a model does anyone know what type of generator will work in this stove?
     
  14. flivver United States

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    Steve: The original gen. is designed to be taken apart and cleaned if necessary. If Coleman fuel is used cleaning is not necessary. The original should outlast you and the next twenty five owners. They last forever. There are many old posts on the subject that go into great detail. Mike...