Flat-pack solid fuel stove?

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  1. presscall

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    Following on from this post ...

    https://classiccampstoves.com/posts/124249

    Here you go, Lance (and others). Not a tracing as such, but I set out the parts on a grid of quarter-inch squares. Metric, it's near enough four squares to 25 millimetres. Apologies for the massive barrel distortion of the camera.

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    Just a reminder of what the parts construct

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    Consensus seems to suggest it's a flat-pack solid fuel tablet stove.

    Cheers Lance & Co.

    John
     

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  2. geeves

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    the heat marks on the pieces suggest you have it the right way up. More evidence for it to be a solid fuel stove
     
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    Thanks Geeves. Yes indeed, that's the clincher. Must get some Esbit/Meta/Hex tabs to give it a go.

    John
     
  4. rik_uk3

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    IIRC these are indeed a solid fuel burner (military) came packed in a tube with about ten circular tabs of fuel.
     
  5. TrainManny

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    Hi Men,

    It looks very much like this "Wallet Stove" on Youtube. I may have to make one myself.

    Wallet Ultralight Alcohol / Esbit Stove

    Wallet Stove II Plans by FriarTuck1961

    Cheers,

    Manny :D
     
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    Thanks Richard and Manny.

    Manny, that Youtube clip was a hoot. Something about the editing to include a wallet and a credit card to repeatedly emphasise it was pretty small ... and flat, a Stove-in-a-Wallet, in fact, tickled a funny bone. Top of the range, size and price-wise would be a Stove-in-a-Suitcase (Coleman) I guess.

    Apologies, FriarTuck1961, clever piece of work.

    John
     
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  7. Friar Tuck

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    Thanks.
    I'm pleased that you like it.
    I didn't know about the classic flat pack when I designed the Wallet Stove. I was trying to simply emulate the Esbit and WetFire wing stoves without the hassle of having to deal with a troublesome rivet.
    1261131198-Wing.jpg .
     

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  8. Paul B

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    I like the flatness of the 2 mentioned stoves. I would have included it in an Esbit/hexamine boil test I did on a bored afternoon some time ago. I can say that the TRIWING stove was the only one of 3 tested to bring 16 oz. of water to a true roiling boil.

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    An Esbit stove with a German Mess tin came close but a U.S. cup stove was an epic fail.
     

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  9. barrabruce

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    How about this then.
    Take a few layers of kitchen wipes (the big toilet roll)
    Cut out to the base of your pot.
    saturate in metho put mug on and light.
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    DOes boil the water slow about 10 or so minutes for a mess pot Ozzies one.
    I have just boiled the water for a cuppa and thought I'd post it for you.By the time I got the camera it was nearly out.

    Pic of the plate and kitchen toilet paer. It does singe a bit but don't burn. Probably used this batch for 50 times.

    The pot stays clean 'cos it is burning with lots of o2.
    You get a slight wiff of metho at the end when the hot paper it dry and the last vapours of metho evaporate.

    Light and easy ...
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  10. Paul B

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    Cool! That I will have to try!
     
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    Hi... A jolly nice item. But it looks a tad heavy !! :-k do you do them in titanium ? ;) ;)
     
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    Some time back there were topics on the wallet stove and having just acquired a metal nibbler, I decided I would try it out (among my other stovie projects) with aluminum (lightweight) which I purchased at OSH for around $3.00. Making out a pattern (without the circular design) and just by measurements of my own and first image is a rough cut

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    Using a file and dremel tool, I began to file down the edges properly

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    Still rough around the edges but finally got it down to where it can be assembled - beta version

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    And here is a close up of the base

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    Took me over two hours but once you were able to make something out of sheet metal, there is that sense of gratification :thumbup: .

    I will try to do it in brass or SS in the near future.

    Ron
     

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  13. idahostoveguy

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    Ron,

    What you've done looks great the way it is in the metal you've done it in. :clap: Nice! :thumbup: You are very talented. Can you show some detail on the tool you used? It looks interesting.

    Thanks!

    sam
     
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    They are available in Titanium: Firelite Titanium Esbit Wing Stove. 11g. Well, I suppose I could manage that. :)

    Ron, good work! Can we expect to see that stove at CASG3? By the way, about how many grams comprise its weight?

    HJ
     
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    HJ, yup you will see it at CA3 as for the weight I do not have a scale but it is light and can lighten it further drilling holes into the metal. Note that this is slightly larger than the one pictured but I can get it down smaller in my next attempt.

    RON
     
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    Hey Jim,

    Before purchasing one from backpackinglight.com check out this item at lighthound.com. It seems to be the exact titanium esbit burner at less than 1/2 the price. I may have to splurge for one. :D

    Tibetan Titanium Solid Fuel Stove

    I was considering making the wallet design larger so it can accomodate a standard "Pop" can stove. Use it for alcohol or flip it over and burn an Esbit tab on its bottom. :-k

    Cheers,

    Manny

    P.S. Excellent work Ron!
     
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    Sam, your question with regard to the Nibbler Tool, I opted using this tool instead of the metal shears first because of the thickness of the aluminum and second because it will not distort the metal while cutting. The nibble is only for light gauge sheet metal, copper, brass, aluminum and even plastic. The aluminum I used is .032 inch. The tool is held like this:

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    Starting from the edge you start pulling on the lever and it nibbles pieces around 1mm bits at a time:

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    It can also do a 90 degree or semi-tight circular cut. Note that this tool is for small cutting chores and does give your hands a good grip workout at the same time.

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    Once the cut is done, the rest could be filed down to specifications. Handy tool for fabricating small brass parts from sheet metal.

    Ron
     

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    So here is the wallet stove beside the Esbit stove for size comparison when fully assembled

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    When disassembled

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    Thickness comparison

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    Now with an Esbit tablet on the base. Note I wrapped the base in aluminum foil as am aware the Esbit leaves a gooey residue

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    Having lighted the tablet, I placed my SS GI cup with one measuring cup of water on it; flame shot with lights on; and flame shot with lights off

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    A decent rolling boil in 7 minutes...not bad! 1/3 chuck of tablet left

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    Gooey residue left on the bottom of the cup

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    After cleaning the cup with cleanser and scrub...looks good as new :thumbup:

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    Might just do another for my youngest in the Marines as it may come in handy ;)

    Ron
     

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  19. idahostoveguy

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    Ron,

    Nibbler tool is pretty sweet. I'll have to pick one of them up. Also, your work on the flat-pack turned out great. Adding that to my list of things to build.

    sam
     
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    Nice work Ron,

    You say you want to try another metal, but is sure seems like that 'luminum is the right choice here. And since I have some laying around, I need to play around trying to make one of these. Now if someone could just come up with solid fuel that did not smell like a dead carp. ;)