A Globetrotter uses the piercable type canisters, doesn't it? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the fuel canisters shown in this eBay auction won't work with the stove shown; isn't that true? Globetrotter + 2xCV270 Canisters on eBay HJ
Hi Jim, the canister shown is NOT for the Globetrotter stove although I should point out that the correct canisters are the CV206 as shown in this picture Best regards Ron
There could be some confusion about the globetrotter series of stoves as the originals used the small piercable canisters and a later version uses the valved variety of canister. Cheers Alan
Having said the above I have just looked at the link to the auction and there is no way that stove will fit those cannisters!!! What you have there is the old version of the globetrotter stove and the later canister
OK, that's what I thought, but I figured I'd better check my facts before shooting my mouth off. I think I'll drop a little note to the eBay sellar. HJ
The seller took it very well and even thanked me. It's always nice to see folks on eBay do the right thing. Unfortunately, there are those who do not. HJ
The Globetrotter that I am familiar with and own uses the smaller piercable cartridges, I think GT 90? or GT106, either way they are about the size of a can of tuna wide and 1 1/2 cans high, with a dimple on the top. These are the only cartridges that will fit the stove without modifications. The larger pieracable has had various names, I think designating weight, of C190, C200, now C206. These are all the same diameter but about twice as tall as the GT cartridges. The are adaptable to the Globetrotter, by either making two wire bails or swapping two from another Campingaz appliance, very easy to do. The lantern is not adaptable as far as I know. You can adapt the GT to use screwon cartridges by swapping the bottom half of a modern Campingaz appliance onto the burner of the GT. The threads of the burners appear to be the same. I have frankensteined a 270 stove bottom to the burner of my GT and it works, but it defeats the purpose and "elegance" of the GT. You can do similar swaps with other brands of stoves using the Primus screw type cartridges. The GAZ cartridges have a smooth nipple. Jim Henderson
Hi Ian, I realized that the canisters here are marked (and sold) as CV206....sorry, you may be right on that side of the pond but here it is marked as CV206 as I have already used it in my Globetrotter. Either that or Gaz made the wrong labeling. RON
...and with the cv206 canister fitted, how does the stove fit in the panset for travelling. Is there a gap between the upper & lower pans? There shouldn't be; the pan rims should just overlap. I'm not saying that the cv206 or whatever can't be made to fit the GT, just that it isn't the correct can for the stove.
The 206 cartridge is about twice as tall as the cartridges for the Globetrotter. If your globetrotter works with the 206, then someone has already swapped the bail wires for you, probably due to cartridge availability. The bottom cartridge holder part of the Globetrotter and the regular Campingaz stoves is identical except for the length of the bail wires. Like I said the GT cartridges are about 1 1/2 inch tall. The 190/200/206 cartridges are about double that. I have the Globetrotter stove and lantern bought new(since 1975?) and a regular Campingaz stove bought used(since 2000?) and a regular lantern bought new(since 1975?) and I have a collection of the cartridges for both including older GT90s, GT 100s and 190s 200s and 206s. I should take pictures to make it clear. Maybe tonight. Note, I may have the GT, C, CV nomenclature mixed up since they kept chaning over the years, but I do have the cartridges and can verify easily when I get home. The 206 will fit a Globetrotter stove but will require minor modifications, the bail wires. Jim Henderson
Jim, you are right there. Someone did change the bail wire...perhaps out of convenience since perhaps the GT is no longer available or scarce here in the US. Ingenious! No wonder the CV206 did fit in. Ron
OK, here are pictures of several generations of Globetrotter990-100g) piercable and the larger(190-200g) piercable cartridges. Note that while reading thru The Complete Walker IV I noticed they mentioned a Globetrotter S200S model piercable stove. Both of my examples have somewhat different labels. The Globetrotter S200S name seems to be a mix of the two labels on my stoves... First is an overhead view to show relative diameters. Front row is 2 GT type cartridges. Left is an old GT 90 90g cartridge, no grooves but a few dents. Right is a newer GT 106 cartridge, no grooves, purchased in the 70s, with vertical grooves on the shoulders, purchased 2004. Next row is the larger piercable Called variously C 200, C200 CLIC, and CV206 Super. They range from 190g to 200 I believe. Left is an old C200 no grooves about 190g purchased in 70s. next is C200 CLIC with grooves, not the price, $2.99 about mid 80s, I'm not sure3 what CLIC is supposed to mean, it is just a regular piercable. Next are two CV206 Supers, only difference between the two is that the newer ones have a paper safety label. In the back row right is a large CV470 resealable cartridge to show the vast difference in size of the cartridges. THe CV270 is same diameter but shorter. The older piercable appliaces cna be adapted to this cartridge but the huge size difference defeats the elegance of the small Globetrotters. Next is a frontal view of the cartridges for height comparison. Very obvious height differences between the GTs, front, 200g center and the 470 back. Shoulder grooves are much easier to see in this view. I assume these are for strengthening or perhaps fixing into the appliance. A closeup view showing price change from 70s to 2004ish on the GTs. BTW, a mid 90s C200 cartridge as pictured in the previous shot was $2.99, now they are somthing like $5 and becoming a little rare. Now a shot of my appliances which use the GT and 200 series piercable cartridges. On the left is a Globetrotter Lantern which due to the plastic cartridge compartment is probably impossible to adapt to resealable or even the larger 200 piercables. Next is a Globetrotter stove which can be adapted easily for the 200s and easily but aesthetically poorly to the resealables. Next is a S 200 S stove using the C200 and CV206 piercables. Note the significant height difference. Last is my Lampe Bluet using the 200 series piercables. The chain is an addon so I could hang it from trees etc. Last is a side by side comparison of two stoves, left using GT cartridges, right using the 200 series. Obvious size difference shows you must use the longer wire bails or legs to use a 200 series in a GLobetrotter stove. Or just swap bottoms. This assumes that Camping Gaz did not have a 200 series stove also labeled as Globetrotter. I have never seen one labelled so and assume at least in the US there were none. Hope this makes clear the differences in GT piercable vs 200 series piercable vs 270/470 resealables. Jim Henderson
Wow! That's quite a price change. Thanks for the comprehensive look at the piercable Gaz canisters. HJ
There is information here in CCS, on the US Amazon and some other websites about people who have converted Camping Gaz Globletrotter into Coleman EN417 theaded valves so they can use EN417 cartridges. They basically use the parts of the current Coleman Peak 1 propane/butane stove (Coleman ref: 2000020924). That stove is made by Campingaz and it is just a clone of the Campingaz Twister Plus (Campingaz ref: 204187) that uses easy-click CV cartridges from Campingaz like CV270, CV300 and CV470. All you have to do is exactly the same process that they show they do with the Coleman Peak 1 and applying it to the Campingaz Twister Plus.
I keep buying globetrotters that have cylinders but they never send me them! I am still after some original cylinders. Empty is fine. I can fill.
