Bob, you accurately put into words what I was thinking before I added my 2 cents, as far as a deluge of information. I was unfortunately unable to stop myself from sharing what another here had previously shared regarding the Ace Hardware washers. And I'd also like to say, THAT is a damned fine yellow smiley thing. Jim
THAT is the issue. As Shirlene explained it to me, A&H doesn't feel comfortable selling gaskets because there's no way to know if an old SRV is going to work or not. Her recommendation was to replace the entire cap. Now, just how dangerous is it? Dunno. With an old SRV, one basically has to assume that it will not work. I like most of the people here have been running essentially without an SRV. I rely on my ears. If the "pulse" (there's sort of a putt-putt-putt to the sound of a Svea) sounds like it's really going out of control, then I turn it down or off. In normal operation, I have not had a problem. The only time I had a problem was one time when I re-lit a stove to make cocoa after supper. I didn't open the cap to equalize pressure first. For whatever reason, I must have had quite a bit of pressure inside 'cause she was off like a rocket with barely a prime. The incidents I've read about were mostly of people who built rock walls or the like to block the wind but inadvertently wound up trapping a lot of heat. Generally, one needs to be very careful if one uses a windscreen (in addition to the one that comes with the stove). That's not to say never use a windscreen, but do be careful. If you look at this photo, you'll see that I'm using an external windscreen with a Svea 123 (in a Sigg cookset) but that the windscreen surrounds the 123 only on three sides. Bon appetit! HJ
There are two schools of thought to everything. I rather have all the information ahead of time. Understanding the safety relief valve is no joke. We all joke about the Coleman 501 being a bomb but a Svea 123(r) is just as much capable. I respect those that just want get it done. Safety for others is something that is a concern to me. Jeff
Don't worry about dishing out too much info. Hell, I've asked for your opinions and I love to get all the info I can. Honestly...I appreciate it. I'm ordering a couple of things from A&H anyway so I'm gonna throw another $17 in for a new cap. Then I won't have to give it another thought. By the way, I've been sitting here in my easy chair watching the Pink Floyd "Pulse" DVD and shining some brass. What A Life!!!! I can't wait to torch this baby off and post the photos! Thanks guys!
Bob i'm a bit flabbergasted. I' fair sure you've slept on these thoughts and have come to realize your misteak, , but i'm not letting you off the hook. You will have to keep it up now. lance M/T Camper you do what you think is safe. But, and i'm certain here, you can replace that currant gasket with an "O" ring from your local snucks auto parts store a lot cheaper than $0.50. lance
I've been reading the pinewoods derby thread about cub scouts learning to build little race cars.....on their on. Objective is to teach them to think and do. There's a parallel in here somewhere. Look, I came to this site with a stove problem (Enders NRV), sought and received advice and suggestions, fixed it and it works like a charm. And appreciated it...I'm still here. Wasn't then and am not now a collector of stoves, although for some reason I have an additional 15 or 20 above what I had then. We all learn in different ways and at different rates and Lonnie says he isn't "covered up", so none of my biz. With that, I'll bow out of this discussion and Lonnie will do what he will do for the safe and reliable use of his 123. Oh well, as we age we sometimes turn into O.F.'s like Lance....and I may, just may, have. And I don't know what a pinkfloyd is. Best, Bob
By the way Lonnie, which one's Pink? And do be careful with that ax when working on your 123, or it may go into interstellar overdrive... For those of you who may think me mad, those are obscure Pink Floyd references; for those of you who understood them,
The next in a long line of rookie questions I'm ready to re-install the vaporizer back onto the fuel tank. I can turn it to the "1" on the 123 engraving by hand but I would have to chuck it in a vice and use two hands to get it to the next window opening. Is snugged up by hand tight enough?
i don't think your mad i was an extra in the Wall one of the squaddies in the beach scenes i thought Bob Geldolf was a numpty until he turned up after shooting on the first day with a crate of Brandy for us extra's as it pissed down all day and we were all drenched and freezing especially after jumping out of the dukws and storming the beach at Saunton long time ago now though but good memories
abman, I caught 'em, of course ! I think "Shine on you crazy diamond" refers to the 123R I'm working on. Parramethtrol, are you serious??? You were an extra in The Wall??? You're my hero!!!
yes i was i had to have a No1 crew cut before they would let me play great time we even scared the film crew half to death as they wanted us to charge down a sand dune with an Enfield 303 with bayonets fixed they were supposed to let us run full tilt down the dune straight at the camera but took one look at us idiots with foot long bayonets and refused to film something about health and safety http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saunton_Sands
Bill, that's too cool! Those must be some incredible memories. Both my wife and I have been devotees of the Floyd since the Syd Barret days: "Piper at the Gates of Dawn"(just one of the reasons I love her, the other being she puts up with me!) Speaking of memories, we both attended their show at the Hollywood Bowl on September 22, 1972. The band's ability to create a mood with lighting was epitomized by the song "Grantchester Meadows" creating "a river of green, sliding unseen, beneath the trees".
As I recall, the thread is a tapered thread. Snugged by hand should be tight enough. DON'T force it go to the next window; you could strip the threads. HJ
Thanks Jim! Would some type of thread sealant goop be advisable? I think there was some on the threads when I disassembled it as I had to clean it off.
You don't need to use any kind of thread sealant. You could use some gas fitters tape but not really needed I find. Cheers, Jeff
Excellent! In that case, I'm ready to add fuel and let the wick starting wicking. I'll finish up as soon as I get a couple of things from A&H. Gettin' close........
OK, I got a new pump cap and graphite for the 123, put 'er all back together, filled with fuel and let the wick start soaking. After about 2 hrs. I tried to fire it up. It was a failure! First of all, I set the cleaning needle down 4 clicks but then I couldn't shut the stove off so I re-set it to 5 clicks and that seems to have cured the problem. I'm getting a mostly yellow, inconsistent flame. I'm gonna let the wick soak overnight and try it again in the morning. If I get the same result I'm gonna blame it on old coleman fuel and I will have to get a new can. This is probably 2 years old. I'll keep ya posted on the result. Any comments are welcome. Oh, by the way...a friend gave me a #99 and I have that re-built as well. Haven't tried to fire it yet.
MTCamper, when you say yellow inconsistent flames, is there any pressure build up in the tank? Observe if the flames are weak which shows you have a leak somewhere. If the flames is strong and you are getting yellow flames, there probably is no leak but perhaps getting an underburn. As far as the wick is concerned you do not have to soak it overnight. As soon as you assenble the stove it will bring up the fuel. Its just me but when you fire up your stove, mix soap and water and apply it to the hole on the tank cap, if bubbles form, that's where your leak is. Ron
I'm a rank amateur but if I had to guess it seems like a weak flame, little pressure. Where might the leak be?
