Toxic effects of burning liquid paraffin

gnebs :-) .. Have you considered the straightforward 111 Kero Roarer burner as a candidate to try to burn Wacko 8) fuels on ?
I'm trying to find the calorific value of Liquid Paraffin(B.P)
Why you would want to burn it ??
Why ?... Why Not ?
Send a pic or 7al of the 111T burning Liquid Paraffin(B.P) & what pre heat & pressure up routine commentary & I might be tempted in to trying a 111 4 tube roarer . 50/50 with the fuel that ,you already know, burns well in your test stove... ..
I'm not a chemistryhead ..Do paraffin & liquid paraffin (B.P)'Mix' ?
I know that Liquid Paraffin (B.P) is reasonably viscous ..& reckoning that it would take little heat to get it to the same viscosity as standard paraffin/kero... & then what does it burn like ?
Possible ? But Pointless ....
Unless ,of course,you get cheap liquid paraffin.
Go for it .
A good pre heat & a fire extinguisher .
Don't let me encourage you to have a go.
Go for it.
Next ???..... The Factor 111 Ambre Solare sun tan oil stove 8) ... sorry
Nick ......... paraffin pedant.(PP)&
Bloody stoves, B'strdo interweds.. Wheres me night cap ? Bedtime.
nn Nick .. In need of an 'Asleep' smilie.
Marmalade .

 

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you might find this of interest
buzz

 

Early last century, people in Australia washed their hair in kerosene (paraffin)followed by a fine tooth comb to help control nit infestations. The hair was shiny but this treatment didn't stop hair loss.

Regards

Ian

 

Not only Australia, and not only early last century! When I was a young boy (date code AW) this was still common practice on the old continent. Never had to undergo this treatment as I had short hair and used a fine comb regularly as a precaution.

Regards,

Wim

 

But not the smokers

 

In my younger days working on the car was always finished by washing the hands in kerosene. Apart from drying the hands out a bit it did me no harm that I can notice

 

well it boils (hopefully) down to this

a certain "old school" type has it "written in stone" that this stuff won't burn in a pressure stove

he hasn't tried it but he "knows" it isn't volatile enough

well i'm going to try it and if he's right i will 'fess up and give you all the true gen

not that i'm an iconoclast or anything but if i can find a stink free substitute for kerosene it means there's a lot more stoves out there that i can get to use.

now this pharmaceutical grade liquid paraffin is a bit expensive, but it is still cheaper than coleman and if it's safe enough to swallow or apply to the skin of infants, then it might make a good, safe stove fuel

i only have ex-mod 111t at the mo but if i have to get a roarer burner to tinker with - so be it

as for australia - too hot for me
but any nation that can build washing machines from oil drums and outboard motors - well i like that

can't hang about i got to go melt some candles

 

In many people, continued skin exposure to mineral oils, including kerosene causes dermatitis, amongst other effects...

 

Liquid paraffin will no doubt burn as a fuel in a wick lamp but why do it in a pressure stove?
Perhaps cooking oil would be cheaper. Why not start a bio-diesel plant and add methanol to lower the flashpoint. The resulting fuel should be similar to kero and the smell might be similar to your favourite take-away.
Somewhere in the archives there is a post on this one and I think the conclusion was that it was a bit of a waste of time.......

 

The cooking oil route was tried and does work after a fashion and if your prepared to spend a lot of time cleaning your stove, I for one don't see the point; "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" so old fashioned fool that I am I'll stick to burning nothing more exotic than Wilkinsons BBQ fluid (or B&M's Flamefast BBQ fuel) or of course paraffin.

 

i think cooking oil might gum up the works and require frequent cleaning, the thing about the paraffins or alkanes is they will vapourize and leave no residue

if liquid paraffin is what they say it is then the only difference between it and propane is the length of the molecule and therefore the boiling point

paraffins consist of carbon and hydrogen only so they tend to burn cleanly in air.

the boiling point is the key factor - if the heat in the burner can sustain the vapourisation and not get "quenched" it should reach an equilibrium and burn away nicely

if the 111 won't burn it, time to crank up the xgk i think that thing would burn camel poo if you grind it up and mix it with peanut butter
(no, not crunchy, that would block the jet)

better watch what i say or i'll be down the zoo tommorow with a plastic bag

and i can vouch for the dermatitis thing
just thinking about kero and diesel makes my skin itch

 

what i meant to say was the boiling point AND the latent heat of vapourisation are the key factors which wiil determine if the stove will burn this fuel

 

It sounds to me that this pharmacy grade "liquid paraffin" is similar to what we call "mineral oil" that is sold in drug stores in the States. It is very long chain (15C-40C) and used topically and taken orally (no thanks). It is apparently the major component of "baby oil". I use mineral on pump leathers and it seems to work very well, but I don't think I want to be putting large amounts into my stoves as I doubt those 40 carbon alkanes will be very volatile even at stove temps.

 

yes, that is the very stuff i had to go to an equestrian supply shop to get half a litre at a reasonable price

i tried 3 chemists (apothecary) shops and each time some little madam in a white coat asked me what i wanted it for, was it for my own use, have you had it on prescription etc etc

like trying to buy dynamite without a licence

there was a time when an englishman could put a shilling on the counter and walk out the door with a bottle of laudenum and an ounce of arsenic salts, no questions asked

not no more

a chemist shop now is the only place were a 17 year old shop assistant can ask complete strangers impertinent questions about their medical history and that's just to buy a bottle of eye wash

then next door i can buy enough cheap booze to drink myself to death

sorry about the rant but this country is going down the tubes

this stuff better bloody burn, if not i will build a burner to make it burn even if i have to prime it with a gas axe

 

LOL! It isn't just over there! I wanted oxalic acid for cleaning smoky quartz crystals. It was like I was asking for plutonium. (although poison it occurs in small amounts naturally in coffee, chocolate, and other foods...)

They will protect us from ourselves no matter what!

 

Do you need a lift there ??

 

sorry to hear it, that means i have no where to escape to.

it's the "nanny knows best" attitude that gets me
30 years ago we got a woman prime minister and i think that's when the rot set in

 

When I went to buy citric acid crystals I was given a thorough grilling. I used to be able to order 5 litres of Sulphuric, Nitric or Hydrochloric acid from my local Chemist (for pickle baths and etching).
I haven't tried recently but I can imagine the response. In France or Italy I'm told you can buy it in supermarkets.
Not Euro-law, just British paranoia.

 

Try buying a once common and effective cold remedy.
We had a woman pm as well. Known affectionately as Uncle Helen. It wouldnt surprise me though if she collected camp stoves.

 

In the overall scheme ot things, there are some tings that you probably shoud worry about. Some things that could affect your health or your well being. Breathing a bit of kerosene smoke is going to be way, way, way, down on that list.

Don't worry about it.

Seriously jon, make a point to do something fun this week, something that you really enjoy, live a little. Life is too short to worry about parafin fumes.

Best regards,
HTG