Those girls are bl**dy awful - caked in make-up, same style clothes, they all look the same to me. I think I must be getting old - bah..! Sorry, rant over - back to the stoves...
Brother Dave, I have to agree, 100%! Not my style, at all. I much prefer the wholesome Swedish gals I remember from the 1960's, instead of the "flash and trash" that most Countries seem to pedal these days. Call me an old Fuddy-Duddy, but "real" is where it's at, as far as I'm concerned, and "flaked and formed" has no appeal to me, whatsoever!! Take care, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc (who prefers "REAL" women, rather than "flaked and formed".....!)
regarding the girls.. they're not to my taste either, and a lot of my (swedish) friends would agree. But these models are not representative of what I consider swedish beauty. The photographer is a known profile, and a proper ******. You can even tell when looking at him here: http://www.stureplan.se/articles/2181/images/article_image_5a9f2b71c26808b5.jpg
Is he really called Bingo Rimer? - as in 'No. 66 - clickety-clicks!' (sorry - that might not travel out of the UK... )
david i don't think its your age mate they look like any of the rough old sl*ppers kicking about out side our local pubs throwing there lunch on the pavements at 2 am,what ever happened to feminine charm and looks ? they might be women but they certainly don't look like ladies, well maybe ladies of the night
I've got both an Optimus Nova and an MSR Dragonfly. The Nova is a recent acquisition, so I haven't formed an opinion yet. I've been very happy with my Dragonfly. It's a great stove for use with larger groups. HJ
REI just had a sale on DRs so I bought one. I really like it. I dug out my only other MSR stove, a Whisperlight, early model, that I used to use a lot. Wanted to compare the pumps. To my horror the pump to my Whisperlight was in two pieces. Both ears had broken off the pump assembly and there was a crack in the boss where the fuel valve goes into the pump. It took nearly thirty years but the plastic has obviously deteriorated. So now I need to go back to REI and get a new pump for my old Whisperlight and then both of my MSR stoves will have new pumps.
The nice thing about buying a new pump is you get a new MSR windscreen in the box too. 30 years isn't bad I guess Jeff
That sale is still going on through the weekend. If anyone's looking for a Dragonfly, REI's sale price is going to be hard to beat. HJ
I've owned and used the Dragonfly, the Nova and now the Primus Omnifuel. Omnifuel No 1, Nova No 2 and Drfagonfly way behind both. My marks are not for ease of setting up in the park but as practical backpacking stoves. Rob
Hi, Rob, I don't know if you would have the time or the inclination, but if you do, I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on the Dragonfly and why it's less suitable than the Omnifuel or Nova. I basically like my Dragonfly, particularly for use when I want to use a larger pot. To my mind, it's detractors are size, weight, and the frequency of maintenance (cleaning) required, although, if REI's web site is to be believed, the Dragonfly is the lightest of the three stoves. HJ
Ive only got the dragonfly but have never found it hard to set up. Always primes first time. Only bad thing is when putting it in the bag the legs keep popping open. A shoe lace or rubber band would easily fix this
You can also tuck the legs behind the attach point of the next leg over, avoiding the need for a rubber band or the like. If I remember, I'll post a photo. HJ Edit: Actually, here's a photo from Sam: Do you see how the legs are tucked behind the attach point of the next leg over? I've found this to be quite handy.
I know this question is directed at Rob but let me have a crack at it. The dragonfly (which I really do like) is not as good as the omnifuel because is is is too big when packed up, very very loud, nothing to stop the pots sliding around on the pot stands, the old pumps break and some of the new ones don't shut off properly and it is all to easy to get kero on your hands when packing it away. The omni is better in all of these areas as is the nova. The dragon fly is good with large pots but poor with something small like a espresso maker. The msr trillium base is great (adds weight but worth it). I like the stoves in this order... first omni second dragonfly (but only because the nova does not have a dedicated kero jet) nova If someone could make a kero jet for the nova that worked with the magnetic cleaning needle I would bump nova to the top. Dan
After the beach campout I found that the preheat wick was put in backwards. The body of the stove has two holes one on the left and one on the right. The tail of the wick was at the left side hole which makes it slightly difficult to reach around and light it. That puts it on the same side as the fuel bottle. So I reversed it and put the tail on the right side hole. Next I wanted to change the jet and see how she burned on kero. It was impossible to remove the petrol jet with the tool supplied in the parts bag. The jet was installed so tightly that the tool would bend. It came out fairly easily with a big screwdriver. After testing with kero I changed the jets back to petrol configuration but only put the jet back in snug tight. Then I became familiar with the cleaning process with the reamer supplied in the parts bag. Very simple operation. Lastly the pump was field stripped to become competent with the process. I found that the rubber pump bucket was dry. It had not been lubricated when it was assembled at the factory Surprisingl the lack of lubrication did not prevent it from functioning on the campout.
I suppose the DF new pump's rubber (silicone rubber) pump cup doesn't really need lubrication, as opposed to the leather pump cups that were used before. Probably.
