Can anyone help me with identifying this please?

Hi there,
I wondered if anyone could firstly help me with identifying this stove please. Also if it's still possible to get canisters to fit and where from.
Thanks for looking, i'm now to your site, just in the process of accessorizing my Vw 1969 Tin Top camper

 

I don't know who made the Ace stoves but it almost certainly a clone of the Camping Gaz Bleuet 'Cornflower' stove, one of which I, coincidentally, happened to be pottering about with prior looking at the CCS forum.

These stoves were among the earliest of the gas stoves (if not the earliest) to utilise the pierceable gas cartridge which later became so popular. The cartridge which the original Bleuet and, I should think, your Ace stove used is a tiny and long-obsolete item. I am fortunate to have one in my stove which still has some gas in it.

 

Oh wow, I like your one!! Where did you get it? Thats a real shame about the canisters, I would have liked to utilise it, but still, A very nice little piece of history
Thanks for your feedback..

 

Both the 'Ace' and the 'Bleuet' feature in the CCS Stove Reference Gallery but Ian's covered all the bases.

Your post gave me an excuse to dig my 'Ace' out, Merlydog, which I'm fortunate to have the gas canister for







I refill the things from cheap imported gas canisters, but best not go there due to health and safety issues and I'm not advocating it as something anyone should try at home ... well not indoors anyway





I said things just now. You asked where Ian found his Bleuet.

Well, there's no shortage of these stoves on ebay, and they're usually dirt cheap ...



The Bleuet is of French (Campingaz) manufacture of course and the Ace and 'Unigas' you'll see there on the right are British made.

The threads on the jet nipple of the British models are coarser (left) than those on the right (Bleuet). The burner bells have detail differences too



The canisters are a common size in all, Campingaz branded on the Bleuet (obviously) and on the Ace ...





... but the Unigas has one that's isn't the Campingaz brand, but more of that in a minute. Here's the Unigas stove





The canister on that Unigas is empty (for now, I'll be refilling it) so I've set out the components of the stove



Ian posted pics ages ago of Campingaz 'pierceable' canisters, showing the comparative sizes of obsolete ones like the Bleuet's and the Globetrotter's with what'll probably be the last of the line of pierceable canisters, still widely available.

I've re-staged Ian's photoshoot here, with the Bleuet-sized Unigas canister on the left, my Campingaz Globetrotter in the middle (only gas canister I have for that stove is installed and full, so you'll pardon me for not taking it out) and the regular, still plentiful, Campingaz canister





The Bleuet was a phenomenal hit at the time, and some see it as responsible for the down-turn in classic brass-tanked stove sales and production.

It was comparatively expensive, so it sold on its convenience and maybe novelty to some extent, because its performance is quite poor.

Not exactly a powerhouse when first lit there's a marked tailing-off of energy of the flame in use as that tiny canister cools with the vapourisation of the liquefied gas and gas pressure drops. The size too means not a lot of brews per charge.

I'd recommend you look on ebay, Merlydog, for complete Bleuets. There are far more of them than your Ace stove. If you really want to see the Ace lit, use the Bleuet (if there's any gas left) until it's empty and I'll install the canister in the Ace and refill it for you. PT me if you get around to doing that.

John

 

My Ace is here although the images add nothing to the story given by Ian and John. Mine seems to be fitted with the same canister as John's Unigas...

 

Do you all realise that the canister is available in Australia with the Coleman name??

 

I guess we didn't - do you have a link?

Why only the Australian market I wonder?

 

cant help it, why , well we are aussies and we are special.
ok , here comes the flack.
i am ducking,
humour even if twisted is fun.
cheers kerry

 

Are you sure it's not the Coleman 100gram canister that you have seen?

 

Camping Gaz is owned by Coleman, which is owned by Jarden.

"As an international leader in the innovation and marketing of outdoor products, The Coleman Company, Inc., helps people have fun and make memories by providing the gear integral to their favorite outdoor experiences. The company’s products include its legendary lanterns and stoves, as well as coolers, tents, sleeping bags, airbeds, backpacks, furniture, and grills under its Coleman®, Exponent® and Campingaz® brands. Additionally, the company provides flotation devices, towables, rainwear, waders, hunting and fishing gear, and safety and survival equipment under its Stearns®, Sevylor®, Sospenders®, Hodgman®, Nevin®, Helium® and Mad Dog Gear® brands. Founded in 1900 and based in Wichita, Kan., Coleman is a wholly owned subsidiary of Jarden Corporation (NYSE: JAH). less"

Quoted from "linked in" -
http://www.linkedin.com/companies/the-coleman-company-inc.

 

When the canisters in question were being produced Camping Gaz was owned by Camping Gaz.
Delighted though I would be to see these canisters being produced by Coleman (regardless of who the parent company is) in Australia or anywhere else, I think it is unlikely in this day and age that anyone would be producing canisters for which the only use is in a range of stoves which have been obsolete for 50 years.

 

Hi Randy
That's old news. What's new is the prospect of avalabiliy in Australia, although I couldn't see it on the Coleman Australia website.

The cartridge was discontinued by Camping Gaz prior to Coleman taking them over.

I don't know of a stove that takes them nowadays.

 

And I guess Tasmanians are a 'special' kind of Aussie...

 

Sorry, all "Camping Gaz" canisters look alike to me!
I didn't realize there were different types other than the size.

Edit- hmm... maybe I need better meds....

 

I know its a long shot but does anyone have a spare canister they'd like to sell me??

 

Assuming such a thing was to be had, how could you put a price on it? They're not exactly queueing round the block for them, but by comparison there's a glut of rocking-horse sh*t.

 

calling Mr. Chickenthief! is there an adapter in the house?



seriously though... would a 100gm modern Lindal-valved canister clip in, and could a different gas stove be attached? (Crux, etc.)???

 

If you can list the thread, i'll make a refilling adapter.

 

Try www.campingaz.com

 

I've seen that too Ian. RHS is in plentifull supply this year. As i understand it, it comes from RH cowboys.


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