Svea 123 burner and regulating screw

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  1. Texas

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    Someone has broken the regulating screw up inside the burner of my 123. No idea who it was altho I was there and turning the screw, I didn't break it. Anyway, its broken off (part # 15690) up inside the burner (part# 15691) about 3/4". Seems i've read that someone was able to get the screw out but I can't find the info. Any ideas?

    No photos but here's a link to the parts catalog.
    https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/214

    Thanks,
    Bob
     
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  3. Knight84

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    Could not just take off the jam nut or gland nut and use a pair of needle nose pilers?

    Jeff
     
  4. Texas

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    Wish that was the case, its broken off about 3/4" inside of about a 1/8" hole and is flush with the structure down inside. Look at the link and see if that offers more of an idea for you.

    Thanks,

    Bob
     
  5. Knight84

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    I am going to have to drink on that one.

    The screw extractor might work. The threads might get damaged though.

    I wonder if one could braze a piece of stock to it.
     
  6. parramethtrol

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    it's going to sound like a daft idea but bung it in an ultrasonic cleaner, i have loosened all sorts using mine, the vibrations and 50/50 water vinegar seem to do the buiness,
    once it's loosened then you might be able to use a pointed bradawl/awl to unscrew it
    nothing to lose by trying it as it won't damage anything
     
  7. Texas

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    The easi-out might work but the set up to hold the burner and control the drill bit is beyond me. And I have no ultrasonic apparatus. And how one would braze inside of another structure is beyond my ability also.

    Easi-out might be the simplest. I thought someone on here had done something similar but can't find the topic.

    Thanks,
    Bob
     
  8. bolexguy

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    could use a trick ive used on other small screws that have broken on me

    would work well on brass - place the burner etc. in a vise and place a appropriately small flathead steel screw drive centered on the broken shaft. now - whack it with a hammer!

    the idea is to make a slot in the broken shaft that you can then use the screwdriver to back it out with. May have to sharpen the screwdrive a bit to make it bite into the brass but it sounds worth a shot
     
  9. Knight84

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    I like bolexguys idea!

    Darn now I wish I had that fettling challenge.

    I just checked to see if I had a spare 123 but only a primus 71. Which could work but not the same.

    Jeff
     
  10. Davwal

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    I think a thread extractor is the best suggestion.

    If you have access to a lathe (or know someone who could do the job for you) then you could make a drill guide to protect the threads in the regulator.
    This could be a simple sleeve with an OD that matches the threaded hole and an ID made with the drill you intend to use or it might be possible to use a portion of the broken spindle (the threaded bit that came out - this would be the ideal approach) drilled out.
    The procedure then would be - insert the guide, drill the hole for the extractor then remove the guide, soak the regulator assembly with a searching release oil for a while, apply a short burst of heat (just enough to start to heat the outer layer of the assembly) and then apply the extractor.

    I have used this technique, successfully, in the past with broken off screws/bolts.


    Dave.