dear all i have a peak 1 model 400 stove (brown color) good a new it used to my my father and now its mine but the thing is i dont know what type of fuel it uses benzine or what? also how it is used your help is kindly needed thanks
Hello Peak1, welcome to the forum. You have a great little stove that is capable of big heat output. It runs on Coleman fuel(white gas, naptha). It has 2 levers; the red knob one is fuel(on/off/volume) the black one is mixture(vaporized/liquid fuel). Pump the stove up(20 strokes at least), with the black lever in the "clean" position, just barely open the red knob till you hear fuel escaping, and light the stove. Pump as needed, after the stove has warmed up a little, increase both fuel(red) and mix(black). Always light stoves outside!
Here's a link to 'international fuel names'. Look up the name for what is called 'Coleman fuel' in the USA. http://www.papo-art.com/fuel
thanks for the info i already bought white gas and put into it and read the instructions that is writen on the stove and kept on pumping but it still dont work .. what i observed is that the pump do not resist my thumb after i push on and out which i think might be the reason any help on that thanks
Aah a simple problem of proper maintance. Remove the pump and lubercate the pump leather with a bit of oil. any kind will do but most use a light machine oil like sewing machine oil or 3-in-1 or even olive oil. (Perhaps the kind found all about the world, but no my favourite.) You will need to work the oil into the leather to ensure it is flexable. These can be purchased at most hardware stores in the use if you need one. or online here from our good friend Sefa. Did you turn the pump knob left a couple of turns perhaps even 3 or 4 to open the spindle valve at the bottom of the pump?? Sometimes if the seal of the filling port is hard and cracked it will need to be replaced. I use "O" rings from an auto parts store for this. Make sure it fits tight in the cap and when closeing the cap only screw it down until you feel resistance then give it a 1/4 turn. Any more of a tightening will result in 1. damage to the "O" ring or 2. failure of the "O" ring to seal as it may have twisted in the cap. lance
Lance said "I use "O" rings from an auto parts store for this." Be careful if you do this, some older style "O" rings are not happy to be in a petrol environment. Take one first and let it sit in the same kind of petrol product you will be using for a few hours and if it swells up all puffy like, don't use them. Stan
now the stove is full with white gaz as i got mixed up putting a more light gas (nephta) i have lubrecated the pump and also put a new rubber to the pump rod since i didnt have any... so now all is working the pump the fuel and i also hear and see the fuel vapour rises and then i put the match and also follow the instuction but it just wont glow !! and suddenly the stove get soaked with gaz all around and i dont know where it comes from ....
Morning, Peak 1, HUmmmm.... are you following the instructions, which are printed on the side of your Model 400, exactly? That little Coleman is an OUTSTANDING stove, as it boils water very rapidly, and also simmers better than most any other stove ever designed!! They are also very reliable, too, and my old original Model 400 is still working like a champ, after over 20 years, with no problems, at all!! First, it's highly likely that you have over-filled your Model 400. All pressure stoves need room for air expansion inside the fuel tank. Add too much fuel, just like with a car, and you flood the stove vaporizer, which sounds like what is happening with your little Coleman. Next, when the directions say to pump 25 times before lighting, then 60 more pumps (for one full minute) after the burner lights, that's exactly what they mean. Doing it any other way, will flood the stove, and cause the problem you describe. Last, there are two control levers on your stove, one with a red knob, and the other wish a black knob. You have to have those knobs in the proper position, for lighting, then using, your stove, of you will get the problem you describe. It's very easy to SHOW someone how to light and use one of these wonderful little Coleman stoves. But, if you read the directions, completely, then follow them specifically, unless you have a broken part, your stove should fire up very quickly, and burn with a nice blue flame. Where do you live? We have members all over the world, and maybe it would help if you could meet one of us, and get some hands-on instruction in using your Model 400. Let us know where you live, and we will try to put you in touch with one of us here at CCS, so we might be able to better help you. Take care, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc
Doc if Peak1 location is correct, he must be in Egypt. Googled the map and shows somewhere in the Egyptian peninsula. Anyway, Peak1 rule is do not overfill the stove. Rule of thumb is 1/2 tank to be safe and a Doc said, there must be room for the air to expand. From what you describe, you flooded the stove. Ron
dear all yes i am from Egypt and my father have got it from the states loong ago a didnt use it but once .. hope you can find someone from this forum that lives here... actually i would like to thank you all for that information you are giving and for that talk about my stove i feel like i have a special treasure that i found myself need to dig more to let it work out so be patience with me ill try to put half the fuel needed and repeat the instructions once again hopefully it will do
Hi, Peak1, That's great that you live in Egypt! One day, we will visit your Country, as there is much to see over there, and much history to learn. We have been to Turkey twice, and love that Country very much!! Someday, we hope to be able to meet our dear Friend and Brother, Sefa, who is from Turkey!! And, we may be working in Israel next year, or the year after that, for a while, too. So, you never know, we may well visit Egypt, one day, as well! In any case, your little stove is a great one, and well worth using. It is strong, and reliable, once you get used to using it, and I am certain you will very much enjoy it! Not to worry about English not being your first language, as many of us are from all over the world, and we work together to help each other learn more about our individual stoves and other such things!! Please keep asking your questions, and we will do our best to help you. Be patient with yourself, too, and do not get frustrated if it takes a little time to make everything right. Once you get it all figured out, it will become very easy for you, and you will be very glad you took the time to get to know your little Coleman Model 400! Good to meet you, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc
thanks doc for your kindly words.. and sure you got yourself a friend in Egypt and ill be happy to guide you here to show you the ancient Egyptian history .. ill be patiant with it and will start tomorrow morning and ill keep you all updated
Everyone has given good advice, when you fill the tank do not lean it, make sure it is flat on its feet. Doc has always provided sound advice. Keep us advised of what happens the 400 is my main back country stove here in Ontario in both summer and winter. I pump mine about 30-35 times; soon you will know the feel of when it is pumped enough.
dear all i have tried every thing and still that stove is not working 1- i put half of the tank with (white gaz) 2- i have put a rubber to the pump rod 3- done what is written on the stove 4-i have completly uninstalled the whole stove and i had put and air commpressor into the tube where the gaz come out in to cheak if the tube have any thing stuck out i see the gaz vapour comes out and i put the match and still it dont want to ignite my guess that i am using wrong fuel ( white gaz) any help on that thanks
Good Morning, Peak 1, Well, it is possible that you are using the wrong fuel, as you suspect. That stove was meant to use nothing other than Coleman fuel, or it's equivalent. Coleman fuel is, basically, Naptha, so anything like that should work in the stove. If your white gaz is like kerosene, which I suspect it is, the stove will never light and function with that fuel. If you can, go to a camping, or backpacking store, if there are such things around where you live, and buy a can of true Coleman fuel, imported from the US. Empty your fuel tank on the Model 400, and use a bit of Meths (Methylated Spirits) to rinse out the tank. Let it air dry for a day, or so, with the fuel cap off. Then, fill it half way with the Coleman fuel (which may be expensive in Egypt), and try it again. I've bought quite a few Model 400 stoves in which someone tried to use kerosene. Won't work, at all, unfortunately. In the UK, Coleman fuel is horribly expensive, so our British Brothers use something called "Panel Wipe", which is used to wipe down car bodies or panels, before painting them. They also have something called Aspen T4, which is a similar product, and which also works in Coleman fuel powered stoves. Please look around your area in Egypt, and try to find any true Naptha fuel. I am thinking that you are doing everything right, so far, but that your "white gaz" is not the same as Coleman fuel, which we do call "white gasoline". Let us know how things work out for you in this regard. But, I think you are on the right path. Talk to you later, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc P.S. Maybe some of our Israeli Stovies, who are not too far from you, can offer a suggestion for a commonly found fuel in that part of the world, that is a Coleman fuel equivalent. Doron? Yanodav? Any ideas?
