Help with Coleman feather 442

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  1. moogling

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    Hullo!

    Sorry, I know it's a modern stove, but You all have so much knowledge I thought it'd be worth asking!

    I was given a Coleman Feather 442 years ago, and just starting to get interested in pressure stoves.

    Went to see if it works today, drop of fuel in it would be about 2 years old.

    Pumped up the pressure, turned on the thingy, and lit the burner.

    Burnt a bit sporadically, as I pumped the pressure again.

    Following this, I tried to reduce the flame a little since it was fully open.

    HERE IS WHERE THE PROBLEM BEGAN.

    As I turned the little red control valve, an amount of fuel came out around the nut.

    I immediately turned the Burner off, and had to blow it out (although that may be because I'm not experienced enough to understand..!)

    I could hear pressure escaping for a short while.

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    What's gone wrong with it? Can anyone help me?

    Thanks!

    Matt
     
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  2. RonPH

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    You can tighten the nut a bit but never overtighten as they are brass fittings. See if that helps. Otherwise, you may have to do a bit of cleaning....dont know if that model has any graphite packing since non of my colemans do. If you do remove it, try looking for graphite tape at the hardware and unravel it and just put enought before you screw the outer nut. Not too much as you may have difficulty turning the red knob. Trial and error and always do this outdoors with a fire extinguisher on hand. Those things should work fine once its fettled properly.

    Hope this helps.

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  3. Wim

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    :shock: You were given this Coleman 442 years ago? Blimey, never knew they were that old!!! 8-[

    Oki, I'll get me coat....
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  5. Knight84

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    There are two o-rings in the valve. There is a great post showing this. I will try to find it.

    You did the right thing by turning the stove off. You can get replacement o-rings from Coleman.

    Found the post. Link to topic
     
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  6. Knight84

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    Just checked Coleman parts website and they don't offer o-rings for sale for whatever reason.

    You can buy a whole valve for $10.09

    Take the valve apart and take it down to your local automotive supply store and they will find the right size o-ring
     
  7. moogling

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    Hehe, scuse My punctuation! no, I am not 442 years old! and neither is the stove...!


    Thanks very much for the help. reckon the washers must have degraded.

    Motor parts places aren't fantastic around here, and a new valve may be a better way of going, since this will be our daily cup of tea stove for 6 months..!

    It does strike me as strange that it was only burning in a half to three quarters, but that's for another time!

    I'll certainly have a look at getting these washers anyway, since the guide notes them as a possible fuel leak place, it could, perhaps, be a weak spot, and worth having extra seals for.

    Cheers!!
     
  8. Knight84

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    Sorry I didn't see you live in Southampton UK.

    Basecamp sells Coleman parts also.

    I believe if you sent an email to Coleman they would send you some orings as well.

    Jeff
     
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  9. Sparky

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    I have had two Coleman stoves piss flaming fuel on me from leaky valves. I see a trend here.
     
  10. Knight84

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    Coleman thought the tanks would rust out before the o-rings went bad is the trend. Designed and made to last 10 years. I don't even let my old Coleman's near my 442.

    Jeff
     
  11. moogling

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    Thanks!

    At £10 for a whole new valve assembly, i'll buy put an order into basecamp shortly.

    Shame that the quality seems down, but they, all the companies are doing that, so it's not a surprise.
     
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    Hi all: It's sad that companies that have had a reputation of building indestructible products are now manufacturing junk. I have a number of 80+ year old Coleman products that have never been fetteled and they still work as new. (not even a cap gasket, as they are lead and rarely wear out) Mike...
     
  13. Sparky

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    It is a regretable situation, possibly starting in the US, when a company known for quality begins to sell its reputation for quality. The products begin to decline and people who know the brand don't realize until too late that a CEO has decided to cheapen the product and maintain the price. Makes for good profits for a few years.`I sincerely hope that is not the case with Coleman. I,too, have Coleman products in the 30-60 year old range that required minimum fettling to get them to run like new.
     
  14. Knight84

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    Profit margins come into play I think. It has happened to Coleman like many companies. They are making a lot more off those plastic led lanterns than the white gas model. And it is cheaper to make a propane stove than a white gas stove.

    Just the way of things now. No one would want to pay for a stove made in the USA.

    Jeff
     
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    Since Coleman is or was owned by the Sunbeam branded products it's gone south. The only good in it is the customer service department is top notch.

    lance
     
  16. moogling

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    Found a number of washers in the garage, and after a "fettle" It's working well. However, when the valve is off, there is still a small escape of fuel that allows a tiny area to burn orange still.

    I blew it out, and released the tank pressure, but doesn't seem normal, it is?
     
  17. Knight84

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    That isn't normal. The two o-rings might be a little too big for the valve. Or too small.

    When you turn off a stove all the pressure is on the valve and tank cap. I find that is when some valves leak or after turning down to a simmer from full throttle. I believe this is when pressure builds up the most in the tank and test the o-rings, gasket or packing.

    Jeff
     
  18. kerry

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    moogling.
    go and have a ride out to basecamp.
    your not that far away are you ?

    a new genny would have it going like new i recon.

    kez
     
  19. Lance

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    Actually that is quite normal. What is burning off is the wee bit of liquid and vapours left in the generator. These sometimes take a couple of minutes to "burn off".

    lance
     
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  20. moogling

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    Thanks!
    I'll run it again and see if it stops before all the pressure is lost!

    Doesn't seem to leak before being lit, and doens't seem to leak fuel.