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  1. rik_uk3

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    Can most kero burners burn diesel fuel?

    Opinions please :)
     
  2. Runegutt

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    I have never tried, and I will never try to burn Diesel.

    Diesel is the fuel from Hell :twisted:
    Smells like that, anyway.

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  3. Ian

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    Yes!

    Burns as hot as paraffin, if not hotter. Sometimes requires a little more priming. Often produces more soot.
     
  4. spudz

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    I believe Henry is of the opinion that Coleman fuel/Petrol deserves that description :lol:
    Regarding diesel, however, would it not clog the jet, with too much regularity, on a 'traditional' kero stove, to make its use worthwhile ?

    Just my humble musings, (otherwise I'll be syphoning the fuel tank on me VW Polo as soon as I get outa here :lol: :lol: :lol: )

    Enjoy the Fuel (be it kero. paraffin, diesel or petrol .... or the other stuff ;) ;))

    Spudz

    ...... oops, almost forgot alcohol too :lol: :lol:
     
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    Rik, I'm curious as to what would prompt you to burn diesel vs. kero in a stove? Is the cost less in the UK? I would think the smell of diesel would be nasty burning in a stove.
     
  6. Ian

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    A stove burning diesel smells no worse than a stove burning paraffin. If you can smell the fuel when your stove is burning there is something wrong with your stove.
     
  7. rik_uk3

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    Spudz, I posted the question to try and solve your fuel problem

    I thought there would be no real problem, but asked for back up on this one. I've burned diesel in one of my No.12's and a 121 without problems before.
     
  8. Ian

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    I'm with Rik on this one.

    If you can get diesel but can't get paraffin; burn diesel. It's not as though you're going to be cooking 3 squares a day on it, day-in day-out is it?
     
  9. spudz

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    YIPPEEEEEE

    Had to walk to work this morning as I'd drained the fuel tank from the auto last night !! :lol: :lol:
    Only joking.
    Just back on line, and am delighted to read the above comments.
    I was planning a raid on the airport later this week, ... the 'friend of a friend of a friend' just shook his head and said 'very hard to find kerosene any more' .. Thanks mate ! :roll:

    I plan to cook 2 &1/2 square meals a day on the stoves during our summer camping trip .... but before then I can have some fun trying diesel. :D :D
    If all else fails I'll have to get me a pair of 111B's :( :p :p for the camping, and just display the kero burners .. ;) ;)

    I'll let you know how things go.

    Enjoy the Flame
    Spudz
     
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    If you have read any of my camping posts you will know that I am a firm advocate of cooking in the tent. Whether or not you choose to do this is entirely up to you. There are good arguments both ways.

    I would however, advise you to exercise some caution in the use of diesel for your family holiday cooking. Any fond tolerance Mrs. Spudz & the little taters may have towards Daddy and his archaic toys will evaporate a damn sight mor quickly than the smell of diesel will if you are unfortunate enough to spill any in the tent.

    On the smell front, the tiniest drop of diesel goes a long, looooooooooooooong way :!: skull6.gif
     
  11. spudz

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    Point taken.

    The Mrs. Potato is losing all hope and patience with my stove addiction .. just this past weekend, as I gleefully polished the recently arrived #45's she enquired as to why I wanted these stoves. When I replied that I intended to use them during our camping holiday she just muttered 'hmm' and left the room. :oops:
    The family meals would be cooked in the open, after all we're talking about southern Sicily in August here, not the New Forest in February .. :D :D
    I'm just a bit wary of the possible danger of flare ups etc. with the little 'taters running lose.
    Any danger from diesel when opening the relief screw to control the flame :?:
    And this still doesn't solve the problem of fuel for lanterns .. you previously mentioned Colemans lanterns as a sensible choice due to this fuel problem. I'm beginning to agree that I may just end up burning unleaded, for cooking and lighting, complete with it's inherant dangers. :(
    I hope to get to the airport this week to make some enquiries.
    I was reading This and they also do a Sulpher free diesel

    There's hope yet ... and still a bit of time

    Spudz

    p.s. good work on clearing out the spam guys
     
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  12. Guest

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    For those who have an interest in all things burnable the following links may prove of interest. There were a number of threads in the old forum that is always worth a search if nothing seems to answer your questions on the new one.

    Diesel is just a slightly 'heavier' fraction in the distillation process having longer carbon chains, with a slightly higher boilng point.

    http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question105.htm

    http://www.iea.org/Textbase/stats/defs/sources/petrol.htm

    http://www.network54.com/Forum/81021/thread/1087685230/Fine+-Tuning+Combustion+in+Roarer+Burners.

    http://imartinez.etsin.upm.es/bk3/c15/Combustion Kinetics.htm

    http://www.network54.com/Forum/81021/message/1089468726/Alternative+Fuel

    http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/motm/leadtet/leadv.htm

    Simes
     
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  13. sefaudi

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    Dear All,

    Once I tried to burn diesel in my Optimus 1. To this end I added a lot of diesed into the tank which was containing a little kero. I observed that the flame started first blue then immediately turned to yellow and continued with this colour. Every night I continued this experience but no change I had.

    Then I decided to increase kero percentage of the fuel so I added some kero into the tank. As the amount of kero increased the flame tent to blue as it was at the begining. I am not able to give exact percentages bu can mention that diesel is not suitable for the stoves that are designed to burn kero.

    Best regards,
    Sefa
     
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    I have a Force 10 clone of a Sea Swing stove fitted with a Hipolito # 1 silent burner. The sticker on the fount identifies the stove as a diesel burner that will also use kerosene.

    I tried some diesel my neighbor siphoned out of his pickup's fuel tank and it would not get the burner up to temperature. The flame was yellow and greasy and sooted the outer cap so badly the flame went out. It did this even when I preheated with the priming cup completely filled twice. We cleaned the burner with paper towels after it cooled, refilled the tank with kero and it fired up and ran perfectly wint one preheat. I think I've used diesel fuel for the last time.

    Maybe, just maybe marine diesel is formulated differently, but I'll likely never need to find out.
     
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    I must admit I've only ever used diesel in a roarer, and only a couple of times at that. I'll have to treat one of the silents and see what happens.

    As a matter of interest Turps comes in about C10H16, slightly more volatile probably than paraffin, but smells quite pleasant when burnt. Turps substitute is oil based if you are feeling on the green side if you don't want to burn hydro carbons.

    Simes
     
  16. Henry

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    Not for aeroplanes they don't ;) ;) ;)
     
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    Anyone tried Brit "White Spirit" (turps substitute) in a kero-burner.
    Its is low-odour - moderately volatile - glass clear and fairly cheap.
     
  18. Henry

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    Same stuff as paraffin, different name :D
     
  19. rik_uk3

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    Henry, I'll take your word for it, and try the fuel in a F*****g Tilley thats playing up :x
     
  20. grunter

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    I tried deisel in my 111C before it was tuned up and it stunk terribly. I haven't tried it sice.