fyrestorm

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  1. kerry

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    having a bit of trouble finding info this pup. ](*,)
    so now its time to ask :mrgreen:
    coleman fyrestorm ti.
    from the look of it it ticks all my boxes.
    any good ?

    kez
     
  2. linux_author

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    don't have one, but here's the link to the manual.

    the user review at the product page is quite enthusiastic, but there are some points:

    - multi-fuel and inverted canister support
    - aluminum fuel pump
    - many parts to the stove
     
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  3. davidcolter

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    My question would be how accessible is the jet for cleaning? It is also not a kero burner, just butane and gasoline.

    I have the older Apex and that runs fine but with quite a bit of chuffing, which is apparently normal for that model.

    http://picasaweb.google.com/david.colter/ColmanApex450#
     
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  4. ArcticFlame

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    Well, the stove looks good on paper ;)
    I tested one in late autumn in Northern Lapland.

    There is no standard jet but a small hole at the end of the generator tube.

    Regulation is quite limited:
    What looks like a valve isn't one.
    Instead, a small wire inside the generator tube is moved up and down. The wire is quite flexible, in reality you end up with more or less 2 positions, full blast and "simmer".
    Where simmer still means a quite large flame, like a real stove at 1/4 output.

    The pump is primitive, compared to this device even an MSR plastic pump looks like a solid piece of metal.
    Threading is proprietary, you can only use Coleman bottles.
    Using gasoline is a real experience IFF you get that thing started. I gave up after a while.

    Connection to either bottle or cartridge is not very flexible and relatively short.
    The connection itself is really hard going, as is the control valve for the cartridge.

    But at least the price is outstanding :lol:

    In a few words, I just used it once :)

    juergen
     
  5. hikin_jim

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    I don't have any personal experience with the Fyrestorm Ti, but I've read several very positive comments over on backpackinglight.com. There's a review here, but you have to subscribe to be able to read it. You can however read the forums. Generally, as I mentioned, it seems to be well regarded.

    A quick excerpt from the review:
    That last bit, "Jet changes not needed," may be of interest to you.

    HJ
     
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  6. Knight84

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    Interesting post! Thanks

    Ah Coleman what are you doing?

    No jet changes sounds great to the new/amatuer outdoors guy but not to anyone that wants to use different fuels or knows stoves. The Nova only has one jet and suffers when kero is used.


    Jeff
     
  7. ArcticFlame

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    HJ,

    I know these reviews.
    You should consider that it's backpackingLIGHT, these guys are butane-oriented, looking for gassies which perform well below zero deg.

    I didn't say that it doesn't work at these temps.
    My complaint is about regulation and craftmanship/construction.

    Every gassie with a generator tube and hose connection to the cartridge will work with cartridge upside down, with better regulation.

    At half the price :)

    juergen
     
  8. hikin_jim

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    Interesting.

    And you're certainly right about that last point. I've turned the canister upside down on my MSR Rapidfire, and it's worked just fine in liquid feed mode.

    HJ
     
  9. kerry

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    thank for your feedback on this. :thumbup:
    i too find it interesting.
    not looking to good is it ?

    kez
     
  10. ArcticFlame

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    That depends.
    If you intend to mainly burn white gas/Coleman fuel then there are better stoves which cost much less.

    If you are looking for a butane stove:
    The advantage of the fyrestorm is that with liquid fuel supply (it doesn't work with an upright cartridge) you get a quite stable stand for the cartridge an some instant regulation.
    But at a high price.
    Liquid fuel supply with a gassie is only necessary around zero deg C and below.

    For 3 season use it is not necessary.
    Then even a small screw on type will be sufficient.

    Fortunately I had not to pay for this stove for testing, and I never would.
    Price in Europe is well above 200 €.....

    juergen
     
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  11. hikin_jim

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    The chief advantage of the Fyrestorm is that it's a fairly lightweight inverted canister winter stove. As Juergen says, one can get cheaper and lighter fair weather stoves.

    If you're looking for a lightweight stove that will work well in cold weather, then the Fyrestorm might be a good option. If you're looking for a good fair weather stove, then the Fyrestorm is less outstanding; there are many other stoves that will work well while costing less.

    HJ