Can any one tell me what make and model this little beast is please. I know one is a 71, I put this in the picture so you would get an idea of size. The burner is a Hasag and on the pump nut has Radius. I know these parts can be changed and often were
Hi Handi: Haven't heard from you for a while. Been on a "walk-about"? The strange stove in you pic looks like the same design as a Juwel 209 I have. Is is as if the designer combined the traditional "spiritusbrenner" (spirit burner) stove with the font and pump of a paraffin stove. This makes for a neat, but untraditional looking stove. As to your particular stove I suspect that at least the font and frame, if not the whole stove, are the original. I will look at my Juwel 209 when I get home to see if it matches up with the font and frame you have. I will get back to you again tomorrow. G'd day. Gordon
Hi Albert, Nice find! It's also similar to the Juwel 109. I've not seen a 109 or 209 in the flesh but I'm guessing they are different sized siblings. The dimensions are on the spec of the catalogue page.
Well Gordon you had me convinced! If there was a 209 you'd be sure to sniff it out! We need a Barthel gallery shoot from you!
Thanks Ross. I did see a two burner Juwel 208 (or was it a 209 -- one or the other) recently on eBay. The $$$ bidding climbed a bit higher than I was comfortable with and I had to let it slip away. Albert, I'm looking at my still rather rusty Juwel 109 and it appears to share little with your stove other than its general form. The top surface of the frame is flat with no groove running around it. The vent release screw is mounted vertical in the center of the filler cap. The conical flame shield that mounts around the burner is steel and not brass. The top of the font is shaped differently. The burner is a roarer. Now that I think about it there is little I can describe that doesn't show well in the picture Ross posted. It is a sturdy little rig the same size as yours. It appears to be complete so I hope to some day get around to doing the fettle business to it. The brand name mounted medalion above the font will be a tough job though, it is sharp black lettering on a gold background with the "GB" logo at its top.. BTW Albert you have made a teriffic find!!! Yours and mind are the only two spirit burner shaped/paraffin burning "hybreds" of this design that I have ever seen. I am pretty sure that the Juwel 109 burns only paraffin. Sure wish I had nailed that Juwel 208, or was it a 209....? Gordon
Hi Albert, How are things? Do I note a solder job where the fuel tube exits from the fount? And is that a pot holder support hiding behind the front right leg of the black frame? Is it a hybrid knock up job ? Either way, from the evidence of the great work you did with the Solex Lamps, I reckon you'll have this stove sorted in no time. Gordon, I believe it was a Juwel 208, at least I was chasing one recently on German eBay, but the $'s were too high, indeed. Enjoy the Flame spudz
I did a bit more delving throug the archive's - it could also be a Hahnel Perfektus 39 or 40. I'll post the catalogue page later - got to dash
Thanks for all the input Ross, Gorden and Spudz Yes the pickup tube was solders where it comes out the tank when I got it. I could resolderthis. But have not done so at this stage. I haven't eaven tested it yet. Just cleaned it and painted the tin work. It had no spreder on it so I fitted one to it that I get made. No it is a suport bracket for the tank. Originaly it was soldered to the tank neater than it is now. This is also another soldeder job I will have to fettle. Can't have that type of workmanship on a good little stove. No it is original. here is another image Showing the soldering work that was done (Not by me). This is showing a Funnel (shoot or what ever you wish to call it) for putting the metho in the pre heat bowl. It would of went 1kg when new with the original packing. The total top plate is 165mm X 240mm
Yeah, definitely not up to your standard, quite a sloppy job. Now you know why I'm loathe to attempt soldering. Are there any markings at all on the fount? Just a thought,so bear with me, but ... If the fount came from a 'traditional' brass stove, how would the 3 points of new solder measure up in relation to the point of contact for the pot holders? Does that make sense? Are the 3 points of new solder about where you would expect to find the pot supports on a 'traditional' brass stove? It's just such a sloppy solder job that I can't shake the idea that it's NOT original. Sorry, just me being suspicious. Hope you find the answer to your puzzling question. Enjoy the Flame Spudz
Spudz The other suport looks like original. verry neat and tidy. I would say this one suport had came off at one stage and was refitted. The pipe would of been leaking I would think. then was also soldered again. All other soldered joints are as neat as I would expect from the factory. No branding at all on the fount or the top section along with the legs. Only brand on it anywhere is in the guide nut Radius and on the top of the burner Hasag TA3AT0 or T6. If this was the case there would be no outlet for the fuel pipe. There is no hole or sign of where any hole was in the top of the fount.
I don't think it's one of these either but similar. This is from 1938. If the burners original I guess it's a Hasag but i have little paperwork on them. It would seem to be a popular design with the Germans.
Thanks guys. I think I will just have to bead blast this one clean again and fix the bad solder joints. No good having a hard to find stove looking like crap. Where is all our German visitors.
