I know this is not one of those classic stoves, but was wondering if someone has more information on this stove. I believe it was manufactured in the early/mid 70's,branded Jet Gaz. It has an interesting (but clunky) flint starter on it (sorry the picture does not show it up well). I got the stove with 5 original canisters along with some other backpack gear. Is the the predecessor of the Gaz stoves we see today?
No, its a long time after the Camping Gaz stoves by the look of the design. Still a nice looking stove and worth having, nice one mate.
If i recall right these were made in England in the 1960's -1970's. Can you take some shots of the connection between the stove and fuel cart. Like campinggaz but different. Jeff
Well, now I have done it! Managed to get the canister off the stove, but looking at it I have not idea how to re-install one. Here are some more pics, maybe someone will recognize the stove. Here is a view of the bottom of the stove. There is a hard black plastic surround, and in the center is a needle-like piercing tube. The surround grips the top of the butane cartridge, and centers it. The piercing tube is currently recessed to the point that it could not enter a cartridge, so there must be some way to force the stove onto the cartridge in a way that pierces it and holds the cartridge secure to the burner assembly. The instructions on the bottom of the cartridge read as follows: "Take Care! Before putting the cartridge in place, always ensure the perforator of the appliance is in the appropriate position and that it is equipped with its joint (?!). See directions for use of the appliance." The knurled wheel in the center loosens the bottom collar but does not seem to allow the burner support frame to be removed. Here is another view of the auto start (flint) mechanism. Now to try to figure out how to replace the cartridge! This little stove may be smarter than me! Wish I could "see the directions for operating the appliance"!
Hey, Fuelish, I have two of those stoves, neither with a cartridge. It's wonderful to actually see the cartridge that was made for these stoves. May we please see a few shots of the cartridge, itself, and it's connection setup? I've never found a cartridge that will work with mine, so consider yourself lucky, Sir!! Well done, and congrats! If it were mine, I'd just keep it for fun, and not fire it up, as once the gas is gone, it's gone, I'm thinkin'. Take care, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc
Take a look at my write-up of another Jet Gaz stove (but taking the same cartridges) in the Stove Ref Gallery, Doc. Jet Gaz stove and cartridges You'll see that the Jet Gaz connector design has an inherent flaw that Campingaz pierced cartridge stoves didn't and it's down to the fact that the connector rubber seal rotates against the cartridge (the Campingaz one rotates with the cartridge) so the seal eventually develops radial tears and loses its ability to seal. There's some information about the English manufacturer of the stove, Dudley Hill Engineering - but the carts were made in France. John
Hey, Presscall, Outstanding report, my Friend!! Many thanks for pointing me in the right direction, John! I'd always thought my two versions of this stove were French in origin, but can easily see they are from the UK, which is cool! Thanks, very much, for sharing this great information, John, and the interesting and somewhat obtuse stove it describes! Take care, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc
Doc Mark, I have a deal for you. If you get to Diamond Lake this summer I will bring you a cartridge. I have 4 unopened ones and the original one that was on the stove.
Evening, Fuelish, Well, that's a very generous and kind offer, Sir, and Sweet Bride and I are most certainly planning to attend the OSG!! Unless something untoward happens, we'll be there, with bells on!! Thank you, very much, for your kind offer! Take care, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc
Hey thanks, Presscall. Took a look at your post and was able to figure out how to re-attach the (now empty) cartridge.
I still am puzzled how does the burner attach itself to the canister. Looking at both Presscall's topic as well as this one as I see the actual canister only has a shallow groove Ron
Not absolutely sure, but it seems that as you tighten the metal collar (which screws down the device which pierces the can) the black plastic material must deform slightly and grip the groove tightly, similar to the way the carrier for the 3-pack of canisters does. Unlike other canister models, you hold the green triangle base of the stove and twist the chrome plated collar down onto the cartridge (you do not turn the cartridge itself). Once fully engaged, the stove and cartridge appear to be securely joined. Others may be able to describe it better.
I have three of those stoves all with piezo starters. Only one had a canister on it when I got it. I went to REI with the canistered stove and matched up one of the newer blue camping gaz canisters to it. They are not like the original style but can be taken on and off eaily, seal up well and keep the stoves working. I have been using those blue canisters on them now for 15 years.
سلام ، متأسفانه س Iالی که از شما پرسیدم توسط مدیر سایت حذف شد آیا امکان حذف سوزن از این مدل اجاق گاز و استفاده از کپسول های سوپاپ کوهنوردی به جای آن وجود دارد؟ Is the rubber part sealed around the ring of these capsules
Hi @taku , Your stove is a Jet Gaz "Alpin Matic". I own two of those, but without the piezzo / lighter. Jet Gaz is a french brand, it seems to appear on the market around the beginning of the 1960's (first advertisings are dated 1962). I need to check it out on my stoves, but I think that those models were made in France. Some were made in England, but I guess that it was the "fan fan" model. I don't have the exact release date of that stove, but according to my documents I would say it appears after 1965, somewhere in the very late 1960's or maybe during the 1970's. Some history of the gaz stoves in France: there was at least a gaz stove produced before WW2, but it is maybe something quite unique. It was called the "BabyGaz" and was developped by a guy called Louis Mermoz. See the post I've published about it here: https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/babygaz-stove.46244/ It might be the only gaz stove made before WW2, even if a patent does exist at this time for at least one other brand. After the war, things were slowly taking this direction, particularly with butane. Camping-Gaz is certainly a precursor, even if other brands might have been around in the late 1940's (I need to clear this out, I don't have enough documents yet). They created their first butane stove in 1949, with bottles that could be changed directly by the owner, without the need to be reloaded in a specific shop when they were empty (you simply had to have a spare bottle with you, that's all). In the beginning of the 1950's, I counted at least 5 french brands (including camping-gaz) proposing butane stoves. By butane stoves, I mean butane PORTABLE stoves. Something compact enough to be taken with you while camping, or at least while car camping for the biggest products. Then, Camping-Gaz proposed in 1956 a true revolution: disposable pierceable canisters. They gained a lot of popularity with the first "Bleuet" stove including this system, making a big step ahead their concurrency. They might have inspire new brands, appearing in the very beginning of the 1960's and proposing disposable canister stoves as well: "Jet Gaz" is one of them, along with "Prima-Camping" and "Butaflash". So your stove is not the oldest ancestor of gaz stoves, but maybe more one of the latest products of Jet-Gaz. Interesting fact: the Jet Gaz canisters were made to fit the Camping-Gaz stoves as well. They were two sizes of canisters: a 350/400 gr capacity canister and a 200 gr cartridge, like yours. A small orange plastic part was specifically made to fit the upper part of the Jet Gaz 200 gr cartridges, to fit a Camping-Gaz stove (S 200 stove, for example). Hope this help Bastien
Well, let's say that as the Jet Gaz brand have now disappeared for decades, this could be considered as a classic stove, in my opinion
