This is in regard to installing the cleaning needle on the 8R and 123R stoves. In the past, I have held the valve body under a strong light and counted the teeth on the shaft as I rotated it CCW. After coutning the five teeth, I would place the needle and then rotate the shaft CW, thereby locating the cleaning nozzle. Since then, I have tried another easier method that seems to work. No guarantees of course, but comments would be appreciated. Rotate valve shaft CW to cloase valve. Turn shaft CCW just over 1/2 turn, 5/8 seems be OK. Insert cleaning needle, rotate CW. Install jet. Done. This is based on the shaft having eight teeth. One half rotation clears four teeth. Since you need four to five teeth engagement, this seems to work. I am new to posting on this board but have been reading it for some time. It has been very helpfull to me. Thank you.
Now here something that mite help also take a pencil brake in half put needle in eraser to hold it works for me better then fingers
Hi Kenh, Try closing the valve, then drop the needle in & with a little down pressure on the needle, open the valve slowly whilst counting the number of 'clicks', as you say 4 seems about right. I like the pencil rubber idea, being not too bright, I usually end up with 8R acupuncture
5 click on the 8R. JC, you do not need to use all your strenght when you hold the needle. A bit easyer on the finger, and you will not get the acupuncture.
Hi Runegutt, The instructions say 3-4 teeth, but the chances are that you might get a wider operating range with 5, as long as the needle doesn't hit bottom before the valve seats fully.
Gentlemen When I made the original post, it was my understanding that 4 to 5 clicks is what the manufacturer says is the standard. Now I see where some think that it is three to four clicks. Praytell, what is the correct OFFICIALLY DOCUMENTED AND NOT OPINION BASED number of clicks ?
There are two models of cleaning needles for the 8R One which will work best with 5 klick, one thats best with 3. Thats why some are a bit confused here. So, if your needle is identical with the 111, use 3-4 clisk, if its smaller, then use 5. The smallest needle will, when adjusted to 5 clicks, get the highest output. Rune
I do not have any pics right now. I will put out some one day. The new ones are short(They starts right on the thred thing) Alzo: If you buy a completly new cleaning needle, 5 click. If you do not know: five click, but if thats to much, you will not be able to completly close the stove. Blow it out, and try one click less.'' Rune
Gentlepeople Now we are making some progress, as I did not know that two sizes of cleaning needles were ever used. In as much as I only have the 8R stoves ( 4 ) and the SVEA 123 ( only one but still trying ), I do not have anything compare with. All of my four 8R cleaning needles are the same size, and as such I assummed all of the needles were also. Now if we could get some measurements of the two needles perhaps we can move forward. Thank you, Ken H.
You can see the difference: The new short is cut off under the threds, the old one has a unthreded part at bottom. Rune
Gentlepeople If the cleaning needle is installed Too Deep More than 5 clicks, the needle will then bottom out when the valve is closed. This would limit the control of the stove. Stove would leak fuel when turned off. Just Right Somewhere between 3 to 5 clicks, depending on personal experiences. This should give the maximum range. Too Shallow Only one or two clicks, then the cleaning needle body will hit the underside of the nozzle jet. Stove would probably be operating with only marginal performance. As such, this brings us to this question What is the relationship of the number of clicks to the degrees of rotation available when the stove control is rotated from full closed CCW to the cleaning position ( Full CCW ratation ) ? It seems logical that one could measure the degrees turn and know immediately how deep the cleaning jet was installed. Anybody ever measure it and see ?
Followed all your advice and Hey Presto / Bingo its seems to have worked a treat so once again what can I say but THANKS to you all who took the trouble to help me. Jack
