Found this while browsing Amazon. The Brunton Vapor AF has come down quite a bit in price. It's now $80 with free shipping. Bottle not included. http://www.amazon.com/Brunton-Vapor...KHLE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1322789329&sr=8-1 MSR Whisperlite International is also as cheap as I have seen it. $69 with free shipping: http://www.amazon.com/MSR-Whisperli...=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1322789440&sr=1-1
The Brunton vapor all fuel stove is a good stove. I just bought one the other week off a great stove buddy. The air adjuster does really work. I had to try it out. Jeff
I'm not very familiar with it, but was attracted to it by the novelty of just twisting the base for different fuels. I don't own one, though. The price is pretty good. $15 for a 330 ml bottle and you're still $25 less than most all fuel stoves. What is the air adjuster?
Jeff, I've read mixed reviews. You really like the stove, yes? I wonder about buying them in terms of parts and support. Brunton has discontinued selling the Korean and Japanese stoves that it was selling (and I think Optimus stoves before that) and is now selling Primus stoves. I think the Vapor AF has gone down in price because it's basically a close out. HJ
Well if its a close out then buy it while it lasts gentlemen. Lets see what new designs come out. Ron
The air adjuster is nothing new. It just limits the amount of air allowed into the burner bell. A simple idea really. These pictures may help. As you turn the burner bell the holes line up and block the air holes on the burner bell. This is the setup for gas fuel (butane propane mix) And the setup for liquid fuel Primus and others came up with something similar. A long long long time ago. A Primus 71 burner bell. Jeff
Hello Jim, Well I should clear that up. I like the stove much more than that silly MSR Whispercrap. I was able to buy my Brunton for the same money. It was never worth it to me to spend 160$ on a new stove. But for $80 compared to other stoves in that price range it is a far better stove. The mixed reviews are always going to be there about any stove. The plastic pump the Brunton Vapor AF has is a good pump though. If you wished you could use a Primus Omnifuel pump. One major downside of the Vapor AF is that no silent damper can be fitted to the stove. Gary tried and I tried. As to parts. Well Brunton was sold by parent company Fiskars in 2009 to Fenix Outdoor group AB. Fenix already owned Primus. Why have two companies making stoves. So I guess you would ask Primus for parts. Jeff
I don't think those offers would apply to someone on my side of the pond. The shipping is the real killer these days. The Brunton does look interesting,BUT... Does it burn kerosene? Then I would wonder if it simmers very well, (as well as my Optimus 111T). Just because I have some very fine stoves does not stop me from being curious about what's out there...