Vht paint?

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  1. intelekt

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    Hello,

    I've just removed all the rusty crud from a Primus pan ring, and need to paint it to stop it rusting again :)

    My question is which high temp paint is the best kind to use? I am thinking of maybe a brass colour but am finding this hard to source! ](*,)
    I've got black but it dries a Matt finish, are there any good paints that are a bit more glossy?
    What paints do you find the best and where can I get em from in the uk?

    Same applies to tins too, does anyone have any recomendations for the best finishes on bare metal tins?

    Thanks everyone :lol:
     
  2. mr optimus

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    Hi intelekt i had the same problem as i was restoring a Tilley Guardsman lantern and no matter where i searched i could not find one in gloss, they seem to be only in matt or satin.
    I Did message a seller on ebay asking if they do a gloss finish but they never bit was told they do a clear coat to go over the matt that will give it a bit of a sheen but not a gloss finish
     
  3. intelekt

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    Yeah I have tried the clear coat Brian, makes no difference its just as if it's invisible !

    Maybe a brass colour or gunmetal type colour, the gunmetal one I've got ends up looking like granite !
     
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    Here in Israel the answer is easy. I can choose any HT color I want, provided it is either matte black or satin silver. My choice is normally silver. It comes out quite nice.

    Yonadav
     
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    I wasn't expecting Plasticote from B&Q to work particularly well, but since I posted this, it's kept its gloss without peeling

    Pan ring paint

    The different pigment for gold Plasticote might not work so well, but worth a try?

    John
     
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    Thanks again John :-)

    I'll check out this plasti Kote stuff, would it also work on tins and cases?
    Just a thought

    Regards Ade
     
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    I'm sure it would work fine on tins Ade. It's evidently a high grade enamel. (No, I don't take commission from Plasticote, but credit where it's due!)

    It came as a surprise that it worked so well on the pan ring. I was intending just to paint it to help spruce the stove up for a photoshoot and expected it would burn off next time I fired it but it didn't and has hardened and stayed intact ever since.

    John
     
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    I don't know what the temperature rating would be, but has anyone considered having one "powder-coated"?
     
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    You could try automotive engine enamel, they come in gloss.
     
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    Who would have thought Plasticote spray enamel holding up so nicely. Cheers for that John ....
    Oh john, I do like your coffee perk' in your link.
     
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    Hi Cavry, powder coating (as I know it) is not able to withstand high temps. Basically, the metal to be coated is cleaned chemically, then the powder is sprayed on and baked in an oven, heated by gas heaters. When exposed to too much heat, the paint will melt or burn off.
    Maybe some type of powdercoat paint has come on the market that can stand more heat, but not in the days I (briefly) worked in a place that used the system to coat roadsigns.

    Best regards,

    Wim
     
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    Do you think the plastikote super enamel would work as good John? Only this comes in bigger tins..

    Also did you use any primer and sealer?
     
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    Dunno, Ade, you're in that unnerving but strangely compulsive territory we stovies get into often of "Let's see if ..."

    Worst that can happen is that the paint will bubble and you've spent money on paint that you'll maybe find another, non-stove use for.

    No, no primer or undercoat, just wire-woolled the pan ring and de-greased it with paint thinners.

    Good luck!

    John
     
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    Glad I'm not the only one who walks in this strange territory :content:

    I always wonder if I should use some things because they might not be the proper or original thing that was used, but I suppose as long as it looks good and does the job but is also good for the stove then it's worth trying new things [-o<
     
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    Go for engine block paint. It contains ceramic particles that can really withstand heat. Of course, your choice of colors is extremely limited.
     
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    G,,day i bought a primus brassie, at the weekend , only needed a clean, no dents, cheap.
    i have just painted the trivet with uht high temp paint (black), have to bake it yet,
    then putit back on and light it up and see if it will tolerate it.
    if not blast it again and try again.
    i will report the results.
    kerry
     
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    G,,day update time.
    i had my doubts, and they are confirmed.
    even after the bake, dismall failure.
    burns off real easily.
    good for display only.
    i will look at other alternatives.
    ie stove paints.
    kerry
     
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    Hi Kerry, thanks for the tests, they're very helpful :D/

    I have used vht paint on the metal strap that goes around a blow lamp, I just sprayed it on, it wasn't the type that had to be baked, and it fired up with no problems. Although its a satin finish ](*,) What kind of high temp paint were you using :?:
     
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    G,,day it was a gloss finish, uht pressure pack. what i had.
    air dried for a couple of days,
    baked,
    sat back on top , fired up.
    bubble , melt, burn.bugga.
    as i said ,an experiment.
    i will try again with something else
    kerry
     
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    G,,day i just realised i have been typing uht.
    should be VHT .
    oh well
    kerry