Pigeon Ignus *

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  1. paul

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    Not too common. Had one on my wishlist for a while. I must have liked it, as it's the only petrol burner I now own. Apart from one other, thinking about it.

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    Missing the key. Currently using a bit of copper brake pipe cunningly crafted to fit the square shank. Any ideas for something a bit less shite?
     
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    Hi Paul

    Brilliant stove!!

    What is the country of manufacture - surely it is not French??!!?? :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
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    Hey, Paul,

    I agree with Shag, brilliant stove!! French, or not, however it turns out, it's a wonderful stove! What size is it? Looks to be the size of a large loaf of bread, but looks can be deceiving. May we have another photo, next to a SVEA 123, or some other stove with which we're all familiar? Thanks for sharing it with us. Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
    Doc
     
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    A wind up clock key. I did one once it just a little big i hank saw 4 slots pinch them to fit.Also get a bar of key stock about the same as stove size and a brake line heat line red hot drive the pointed key in it then go round hammer to shape
     
  5. paul

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    Yep, French. So is my other petrol burner actually - A Selus something or other I thnk. There's one in the mystery stove section (owned by Wim)

    It's smaller than you think, Mark. I'll post a scaled photo this evening.
     
  6. kerophile

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    Hi Paul, I love your Pigeon Ignus stove and wish that I had one.

    Monsieur Charles Pigeon, French Industrialist and inventor of the non-explosive oil lamp, is buried in an amazing tomb in Division 22 of the huge Montparnasse Cemetary in Paris.

    ( Not many people know that)

    I made a pilgrimage there several years ago!


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    Here is an extract from a poem, by the Canadian Poet Todd Swift which refers to it:


    Monsieur Pigeon's Best Machine

    "Speaking of which, my favourite tombstone
    belongs not to an industrialist or chess

    champion (though they are here in numbers),
    not even to the Mexican President Porfirio
    D'az, but instead to a homely inventor:
    Charles Pigeon. I have no earthly idea

    what his contribution to patents or gears was,
    though his grave is topped with the most
    nostalgic and grotesque figuration of sentiment.
    We come as voyeurs to his last resting place

    beside his wife. It is a large, green (the air
    did that) bed, and in it, there they both are:
    he doodling new mechanisms in a little book,
    completely dressed, down to the detail of

    a pocket watch and vest; she, more relaxed,
    also clad (in a gown better designed for a ball
    than dreams) is turned slightly aside, humorously
    grimacing, one hand put out to his thigh, as if

    to say: Turn out the light Charles, let's make
    whoopee. This scene of merry, married life
    is Monsieur Pigeon's best machine: one which
    carries all who pass by it, immediately, from

    their louche century with its discontented values,
    back to his, when such peace and contentment,
    between man and wife, was a basic right.
    At any rate, he thought so, and put the thing up

    (in the path of texts, revolution and economies)
    over their long-term absence, to cap their night
    with a fixed ornament I would gladly die under,
    for I too believe that tenderness is a monument."

    I will take some photos of one of his famous paraffin lamps later today and post some images on the Site.

    Yours enviously,
    George.
     
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    Hey, Kerophile,

    Now, THAT is something neat and interesting!! Next time we visit Paris, we'll definitely look that one up!! Wow! Whimsical, interesting, odd, and at the same time, completely captivating!!! I really, really like it!! Thanks for sharing it with us, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
    Doc
     
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    Truly interesting. Thanks, George.
     
  9. paul

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    Ok chaps. To give a sense of scale, here she is next to a rather fetching 96.

    Note the quality copper brake-pipe-cum-control-knob.

    I may go into production if there's enough demand... :roll: ;)

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    Cheers
     
  10. kerophile

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    Hi Paul, a really neat, compact stove... and don't you just love the "Missile Silo" doors.

    Charles Pigeon, who founded the Company with his name, died in 1915. His company introduced the Pigeon Ignus touring stove in 1948.

    Thanks for showing us all the photos.

    Best Regards,
    George.
     
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    Thank you Georges for this interesting tribute to Ch. Pigeon :thumbup:

    I discovered that my parents live very close to his hometown in Normandy. I'll go to take some pictures to complete this unusual thread.
    In addition, Mr. Pigeon begun his carrer as a salesman here, a huge legendary parisian department store. At the time, this place was the epitome of modernity and had surely provided a visionary inspirations to the future industrialist.

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    My Ignus has a dangerous tendency to over-heat. If the tank was adapted, I could fry eggs on it.

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    Here's a lousy homemade pot-support made out of a zinc plate. As expected, it begun to melt down before the end of the coffee test :doh: Even the graphite pack was failing that day...

    Beside the point, the double-walled silent burner of the Ignus works well on several kinds of stoves ( here, on a Svea5 ) ; I use it mostly on a Primus 71.
     
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  12. kerophile

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    Hi Nikos we have a CCS member who replicated the proper pot support for the Pigeon Ignus:

    https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/13681

    I can't find photos of the finished product, perhaps Big BTU can help?

    Best Regards,
    Kerophile.
     
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    An article on the local paper. It speaks about Charles Pigeon being a great industrialist-inventor born in Normandy. The page also features a handsome stove collector... 8-[

    Link to the page
     
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    Nikos, I have a pattern for the pot stand if you have not yet found one. I made one for myself and for Big BTU. I'd be happy to make another.....
     
  15. kerophile

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    Hi Nikos, Happy New Year to you, and nice to hear from you again.
    Good article in the Local paper!
    Best Regards,
    Kerophile.