At the end of my rope!

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  1. suprz

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    I have a Coleman dual fuel 533 single burner stove that I got as a gift and I cannot get it to run right! I have a number of Coleman stoves and lanterns so I am not I noobie at these things. The stove lights ok at first, but then starts to flare up and it just will not run clean.... Finally after I have had enough I shut it down and it continues to run and flare up for as long as 5 mins after that I can see smoke and smell what must be the packing around the bottom of the burner! I have replaced the generator, taken the burner apart, and cleaned the fount and the generator numerous times, but still always the same results.....the stove is just a bad seed and I am just thinking of selling it for parts because I would not sell it to someone that doesn't have any knowledge of Coleman stuff and have them get hurt with this beast. More than once I have had to take the hose to this stove in order to shut it down without it becoming a fireball! Any ideas on what the heck is up with this stove? The only thing I have not done is taken off the fuel valve. Everything else has been repaired, or replaced, or cleaned....
     
  2. idahostoveguy

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    Maybe this is something you could take up with Coleman and ask for a replacement.

    I would venture that maybe there is some blockage in the tank or in the burn chamber. They're not the greatest burners, but new ones always burn good for a little while. Since you replaced the generator, I would say that you've done what you could and should call it a lemon. Coleman still has many good products, maybe their quality control isn't as good as it used to be.


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  3. fire bug

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    I'd tend to agree with Idaho, if this has been having issues from brand new it points to a manufacturing/assembling defect.

    If you were on a desert island it could be discussed how to repair it, but I suspect if it was a simple fix you would have fixed it already and since you have other things to do in life a call to coleman customer service is the best option right now.
     
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    You say you havnt had the fuel valve out. Im guessing here but my money is on the air hole in the fuel pick up being blocked. These stoves mix air with the fuel all the time. Only other thing I can think of is that there is insufficient air entering the burner. The only place this happens is at the hole the generator enters through.
    Could try swapping one part at a time with a known good stove
     
  5. RonPH

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    I had the same problem with the stove and read somewhere there were shut off valves that were produced but not to specs. Coleman did send me s new shutoff valve so in the process I clened the pick up tube. It sure cured the problem.

    Ron
     
  6. DaveSiegler United States

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    One more question. When I got my 533, I had the same results. I was not pumping it up enough and the burner box was getting full of fuel, and flaring up, not shuting off etc. When I pump it up per the instructions, it worked fine.

    A lantern does not need to be pumped up that tight. So if you have not done so, try one more time and really pump it up.
     
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    its something like 40 pumps for a full tank and more for less fuel. Dont overfill the tank by tipping when filling. I got my 533 cheap because the previous owner thought it was faulty when it fireballed because he had overfilled it. Ive seen a 422 do the same thing. One tends to move quite fast to the off control when there is liquid fuel coming out of the bottom of the lit burner. We go it out and stopped the inevitable happening.
     
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    Spurz wrote---"The stove lights ok at first, but then starts to flare up and it just will not run clean.... Finally after I have had enough I shut it down and it continues to run and flare up for as long as 5 mins after that ,"
    This is why I left behind my brown Coleman peak 1 near a small Sierra Nevada tarn under a stone grave marker in the mid 80s :rage:
     
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  9. suprz

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    I think I might try to remove the valve next, but that is the final try, If that does not cure the issues, I will drill holes in the fount and crush the darn thing so it won't harm anyone that finds it in the dump
     
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    Dont do that
    There are people here that would love the challenge. Put a post here with the title 533 free to a good home. Im too far away to have a go myself.
     
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    Based on my experience with my 'suitcase', you need to pump Colemans as per instructions plus 10-15% or more to get best operation. Good luck and try what the other posters suggest.
     
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    Both my Coleman 400B and 502A run fine with 10 - 20 pump strokes. Burn after shut-off is minimal.

    Yonadav
     
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    from your description of the behaviour of ypur 533 I my gess that the problem is some dity or gummy that block the sir hole in the gasoline-air pickup inside the tank. It happened to me with a different coleman, a tiny piece of dirth bloking the air intake hole allow only gasoline to go to the generator.
    It caused the stove to flare, as such stives are meant to have a continuous flow of both air and gasoline. Before distroing the stove, unscrew the valve from the tank, and blow all the pickup passanges with compressed air. I is worth a try anyway.
    Have fun, and be carefull.

    Orsoorso
     
  14. suprz

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    SUCCESS!!!!!! I took the stove completely apart (again :( ). And blew cab cleaner thru the plastic F/A tube, and through the new generator and put it all back together and fueled it up and it lit right up, the flame sputtered for a few minutes, and then it just settled down and ran great! I let it run wide open for over an hour and she ran strong And hot. I can tell you one thing, that sticker on the stove that says LO ....NOT!... There is no distinction between LO, and HIGH on this stove, only HI, and OFF.. When it was time to shut it down, I was pleasantly surprised when I shut the valve to the off position and it actually shut down, no flare ups, no smoke.... I still don't trust it just yet, but for now it works :content:
     
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    Well done suprz for persisting, hopefully it will continue to work as it is suppose to.
     
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    Glad you got it up and running. If it's not running on low, pull the gas tip and check the operation of the cleaning/regualating wire. I've had a few of these get kinked or bent on one or both ends. And of course, check to make sure the wire elbow in properly installed in the eccentric block.

    Mike