National Stamping & Electric works(?) stove

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  1. SMolson

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    Hello,

    Need some help identifying make/model of a stove I inherited from my Grandfather. There are no stamped markings or stickers of any kind on this stove, but it appears to be similar to a National Stamping & Electric Works stove, shown in this link: https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/17255

    I've taken her apart and cleaned the pieces first in a digital ultrasonic cleaner then by hand before putting her back together. I have no idea if anything is missing, but apparently she runs on white gas (there was a tag attached to this stove and my grandfather had written that it runs on naptha, and that it was from the 20's). There is no wick in the stove, no pump nor any priming cup. I have no idea how this is supposed to work or generate pressure, lol. Any help in explaining to me the aforementioned, it's model/make or history of these types of stoves is much appreciated.

    Not what I'd call a camping stove - much too big and bulky imo. Yes that's my siamese in the shot...
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    Close-up
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    Burner and pot support
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    Spindle control knob. What's the rotating wire protrusion above it used for - cleaning needle? If so there was no needle at the end of it, it ended flat (perhaps broken?)
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    Fuel cap with screw insert to relieve pressure
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    Bottom of stove
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    Thanks for any info!
     
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  2. nzmike

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    Neat thing! :thumbup: Those slotted burner heads can chuck the heat once they get going, I had one on my handy-gas plant (granted it was a little bigger). :thumbup:
     
  3. Sparky

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    It may have had an external pump that pressurized thru that filler cap.
     
  4. SMolson

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    Thanks Mike/Sparky. I received a PM from a member with information that supported she is indeed a Handy Camp Stove model from National Stamping & Electric works, Chicago, Il.

    3/4's the way down this document - No 2. Handy Camp Stove. She's not 100% identical to the pict shown, but close enough.
    http://light.papo-art.com/tech-n-info/Coleman_technical/OldDirtyColemanPaper/NuliteFile.pdf

    Also they do use pumps as Sparky indicated. That fact has answered another question I had of a lamp I recently purchased from a Thrift store in town ($10).

    She has the same fuel cap/screw setup and dates around the same time (1920's), lower right -
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    That one from the Coleman Canada, a Quick Lite. Will try to get her operational as well, I have the mantles for both outputs and have cleaned her parts/stripped her down and pieced her back together.
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    Thanks again!
     
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  5. teckguy_58

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    Hi,
    Great looking stove. What a great find.
    If this stove is set up similar to a Coleman the the control lever above the control knob needs to be in the up position for lighting due to using the vapor from the top of the font for preheating. After a minute or two the control lever is rotated down and preheating is complete. As for a cleaning needle it could be included at the end of your control knob, but since I'm not familiar with this stove I'm just guessing. Sparky is right about it using an external pump for pressurizing the font and these can be found on the bay of evil or you could check out,

    http://www.oldcolemanparts.com/product.php?productid=1103&cat=26&page=1

    ,to find a new external pump at about the same price as the used ones are going on the bay of evil.
    I'm looking forward to seeing some flame shots when you get the stove up and running.
    Cheers,
    Norman
     
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  6. SMolson

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    Thanks teckguy - I have a pending order with Oldcolemanparts almost ready to place, so if I can't find a local pump at a reasonable price here I'll add that one to my spreadsheet. It's great they still make them. Thanks for the explanation regarding the control lever. They still have those levers on the > than or = 2 burner coleman stove fuel tanks and the odd old single burners, and I did not know that was their purpose (vapor for pre-heating).

    I will post flame shots for sure and add it to the stove reference forum, as there is only 2 like it up there now (but not identical). My grandfather never lit this stove, on that same paper label attached to this stove he commented 'naptha stove, do not light, there is no pump - is dangerous'. He inherited it himself from a historic property in Quebec he purchased/owned. I've had it for over 15 years now, but only now am I getting into fixing her up. I hope to get her running (and safely) for my Grandfather's sake.
     
  7. fishcamp

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    Nice stove. Good luck with the restoration.
    Adian