Hello, I am new to the forum. I joined because I recently obtained a Russian military camp stove that I would love to use but cannot figure out how to pressurize the fuel. Everything looks to be in good order. It is missing the wrench/tool which you can see the clip in the lid in the pictures. Any ideas where I might find one? Any information that could be provided would be greatly apreciated. Having an issue posting pictures. The image is too big. Working on figuring that out.
To reduce the size of your images, you can use the image editing software you probably already have. Failing that, use the on-site Image Optimiser (button at the top of the page). In essence, use the software to reduce the size of your image so that the longest side is no more than 640 pixels. Also change the image to no more than 72 dpi - any larger than that provides no better quality on a monitor. Then save your edited image but as you're doing that reduce the image quality to 25 - 30% (there's usually a slider to adjust that) and you'll not see any actual difference in the image as it appears but it's file size will have been reduced drastically. Once you've done that, go to the Forum Test and Tutorials area where you'll find a tutorial on posting images. Just follow that (and especially the text in red print) and you should be OK. Once we have some images of your stove, someone will be in a better position to offer advice. Hope that helps...
Hi, a better description would be useful. Until then -- if it is a white gas (petrol) stove it may be self pressurizing -- there is plenty of information on this site, including directions, on how to operate such stoves. Look for something similar.
Thank you each very much for the advice. I finally got the image upload to work. Here is a pretty good image, I think. It looks to be in working order but I am not sure how to pressurize. I have also never heard of a self-pressurizing stove. I am intrigued. Any advice would be gratefully appreciated.
Itchy, thank you for your post. After reading your post and doing a little looking on the web, you are correct. I believe it is a self-pressurizing stove. Interesting form of ignition. How full should one fill the reservoir? What type of fuel should be used? I plan on taking it to use at WW2 re-enactments. I do love my morning cup of coffee. In appearance my stove is close to the Svea 123 but I think it is a knock off or a contract piece. Joining up with CCS was well worth it just to get this information.
It uses Coleman fuel. Fill it up two-thirds because the tank needs to pressurize with the remaining air inside the tank. The cup like dimple under the burner is where you place alcohol or coleman fuel to preheat the burner. There are many tutorials on YouTube on how to light an SVEA 123 similar to your stove.
My apologies for the first response as I was dictating over my smart phone...well not too smart I guess. So as others have mentioned it uses Coleman gas and only fill it two thirds as the remaining space is for the air to pressurize. The indentation below the burner is where you fill up with alcohol preferably to preheat the burner. Since your stove is untested, please do this outdoors in case it flares up. Watch youtube videos of SVEA 123 being lighted. You may need to replace the cap washer if it does not pressurize or show some other problems. Again do it outdoors until you have confidence in lighting the stove. Have a fire extinguisher handy and wear a flameproof suit 8-[ Ron
To get the best out of a self-pressurizing stove you should equalize the tank pressure every time you fire it up. Just unscrew the filler cap for a moment to do this. If the tank pressure is lower than atmospheric pressure then they can be difficult to get started.
Can anyone comment on the burner plate shown on this stove? Please compare the amount of area the burner plate covers with the example shown in the reference gallery. This one seems too large.
Cavhacc, your stove looks much like a Juvel 34 or 37, and is lit the same as a Svea 123. I would first check the fill cap gasket to insure it is soft enough to seal, once that is done, fill the fount up to 3/4 full of clean Coleman fuel. Open the fuel valve and hold the fount in your hand like a small chick until fuel rises out of the jet and pours down into the cup shaped recess in the top of the fount. You will soon figure out how much to let it fill. Close the valve and light the fuel in the recess. Allow it to burn nearly out and open the fuel valve. As the stove burns the flame will get more powerful. Open the valve two or two and a half turns for full power, close it until the flame lessens to control the power and allow the stove to simmer. The fuel is pressurized by the heat causing the air in the fount to expand, forcing the fuel up the riser tube. The fuel is turned into a gas by the heat and blasts against the flame plate. Your stove will very likely sound like a fighter jet taking off, this style of stove is LOUD!! That sound is very comforting when the night is cold and wet and one desires hot food and a good cup of coffee or tea. The best thing about these little self-pressurizing stoves is that they are simplicity itself, and generally rugged as a chunk of granite. A bit analogous to a hammer. You pick it up and it works. I still use the Svea 123 I bought new for $8.50 in 1969. The only repair it has needed is a new fill cap gasket a few months ago. Did I mention how rugged these stoves are? If you intend to use your stove in very cold weather, a piece of 3/8" or 1/2" plywood 8" or so in diameter to set under it on the snow or frozen ground and some sort of windscreen will show their utility in short order. Leave the plywood unpainted to increase it's resistance to sliding. Gerry
Gerry, thank you for your detail. That helps immensely. I have seen several YouTube videos now on that style of stove and I am looking forward to getting it lit soon. Rest assured, it will be in use shortly. I am rather pleased to hear of its ruggedness. It will get tested I am sure. You would not have any idea where I might find one of the small tools that would have been in the one lid. Mine did not come with one though I am certain it originally did. Thank you all for taking the time to post. Michael
The burner plate, or whatever is on top of the burner bell, does look odd. If it really is the way it looks, I dont see how it can be right. Is there any chance we could see a closeup of the burner?
As long as the one shown actually fits, you're probably better off using that. The metal ones get extremely hot during use and it would only be a matter of time before you ended up with the imprint of it burned into the flesh of your thumb and forefinger. Trust us; we know...
Burner bell looks like unstandart or modified hand made. See in Russian gallery how it must be on bell. And - why - Military ?
Your stove is a Russian consumer model, not military. Ogonek or Ogonyok, depending on the translation from Cyrillic. Here is Bratok_xxl's example in the Stove Reference Gallery. Don't be fooled by the date in that post, the stove was likely manufactured a century after 1891! Instructions can be found here .
In my foto - date of production on production stamp - 1891 =) I know - its production mistake - but its very fun and unique.
