Now, I'm no novice, but, I've recently heard that "rape seed oil" is essencialy Canola cooking oil. Wtf? Can I get fuel for a 111C or a Nova in the food store?
its good to know my peers don't laugh at me while I'm away. I didn't think so, but, it was so outragous, I had to check. Cheers lads!
Hey, Hobo, I wasn't laughing at you, but at Rik and JC's answers!! The rape plant, or "Brassica Napus", yields an oil called, rapeseed oil. Sometimes it's called "colza", this might have been where the misunderstanding took root. See? "Colza" - "Canola"? Close, but no cigar. But, hey, with a name like "Brassica Napus", we should ALL be burning rapeseed oil in our stoves!!!! Cool!! 8) Take care, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc Mark
No worrikes. It's one of the sugested fuels on those twoi stoves, and hadn't been able to get a straight answer prior to this. Cheers mate!
Canola is in fact rapeseed oil, from a cultivar developed in Canada that produces an oil lower in a property that makes rapeseed oil somewhat toxic to humans in large amounts. As I recall, the Canola name means something like Canadian low acid oil. Not incidently, the name was needed because of the negative connotations of oil of rape on the market! The etymology has nothing to do with the common meaning of rape, but rather derives from rapum, or some such, which is the same root (!) as turnip. Like hake, a Pacific fish that the fisherman used to throw back, became Pacific Whiting and sells for good bucks. Marketing rules......
A good analogy, Ed. When I was a kid, rape (the plant) was a weed which arable farmers sought to eradicate. Now it is a major cash crop.
I have hrrad that the description of a weed is 'any plant in an undesirable location'. so, conceivably, a rose by any other name, could be a weed ! Spudz
My contributor hand was about to pass comment but I realised that my moderator hand would have had to delete it as it was beyond the limits of common decency.
Getting back to the subject of fuel. Rapeseed oil, old chip oil etc can be split up into diesel oil and soap. The process uses caustic soda and methanol as a catalyst. Not something I would like to try at home. However I bought 5 litres of the oil a few years ago to try in a german army "Dieselkocher". I found that there was enough soap in the oil to leave a big deposit round the jet so I didn't continue with the experiment. I also used ordinary diesel oil in the stove and found that it needed a lot of paraffin (kerosine) in it to start easily. Anyone else tried experimenting with fuel? 100 percent proof alcohol for example. Regards Tony
[quote "Getting back to the subject of fuel. Rapeseed oil, old chip oil etc can be split up into diesel oil and soap. The process uses caustic soda and methanol as a catalyst. Not something I would like to try at home. " that is the same rough technique used for making biodiesel. Aparently, w/ veggie oil, it works better. My original Q was based on the listred fuels that the 111C claimed to be able to use. I don't even own 1, was just curious if I should add one to my hopes list.
If you've ever tried to erradicate wild rose plants you'd have no doubt of it. If I ever find out who imported Wisteria, Privet and Multiflora rose I'm gonna dig the SOB up and piss on his bones! AllanD
