Which of the Coleman Camp 2-burner Stoves Burn Kerosene?

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  1. triggerz

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    Hi All,

    I need to know which of the Coleman 2-burner camp stoves can work with kerosene. I see that there is the model 411, 413, 424, and 425E and 425F which are designated for the Coleman fuel or unleaded gasoline. I'm looking at these stoves because they are still plentiful out there and not as pricey as the Swedish ones like the 535.

    If none of these do, can they be converted by modifying the fuel delivery tube with one that goes through the flame to work as a preheater? Has anyone tried this?

    When starting the stove on kerosene, I know I need to figure out a way still, to preheat this 'preheater' tube or generator as it has been called by Coleman in the single burner 550 model.

    Thank you all.
     
  2. Doc Mark

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    Greetings, triggerz,

    Welcome to CCS! The only Coleman stoves that I know were designed to burn kerosene, were the Solus models, both roarer and silent. IF I were tempted to try burning kero in any other Coleman stove, I'd probably go with one of their earlier models, like the #1 or #2, both made in the 1920's. Yes, they might be harder to find, and in the end, might be just as expensive as the Swedish models. But, they both have cast iron burner systems, and a "hot blast" priming setup, in which you could burn Meths or Coleman fuel to get the kero going (maybe!!!). Or, try and find an older Homestrand Mariner stove, with the SVEA #1915 burners. These were made to burn either Meths, or kerosene, with the simply replacement of jets and cleaning needles. I have found several for very low prices, and even after cannibalizing the burners of one of them for other projects, still have one setup for kerosene, and one setup for Meths. GREAT stoves they are, and equal in almost every way to the double burner Swedish models. Hey, they use Swedish burners, so this should not be a huge surprise! ;) 8) :D :D In any case, I'd probably go with the older Homestrand stove, unless you already have an original old Coleman in which you want to experiment. The SVEA #1915 burners look just like any other Swedish kerosene burner, in that it has four tubes as part of the burner, and not two, or less. Be aware that lots of those Mariner stoves came with Meths-only burners, but these have only a riser and no actual fuel tubes, and are easy to distinguish from the kero burners. If you need photos, please check the Stove Reference Section, or let me know, and I can take and post some photos here. Good luck, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
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    The stoves you mention all have a generator tube which already sits across the burner to heat the fuel and turn it from liquid to a gas, thus "generating gas". I don't know of any of the common Colemans that were meant to burn kerosene, but if you search on this forum, I believe one member converted a 502 to kerosene? Am I right guys? Or am I misremembering?

    edit- Morning Mark!
     
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  5. Doc Mark

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    Morning, All,

    (Hey, Randy!) Just got back from church, then food shopping, and it's a tad warm up here in our mountains! We'll be happy with this warm spell leaves us and things get back closer to normal. Hard sleeping in hot weather...

    As for running a Coleman on kero, IF I were going to try it, besides in the Solus, of course, it would be with a 502, as that seems to offer the highest chance of success with very little chance of problems, or failure. I also have enough 502's that I don't mind fettling one into a kero burner. However, this is not a high priority to me, and goodness knows when I might "get 'round" to it! ;) :lol: :lol: Take care, and God Bless!

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    Hi all: None of the two burners from Coleman were designed to burn kerosene that I am aware of. As stated above, generator over burner is normally not conducive to kero. Mike...
     
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    Hey, Flivver,

    Great to see you out and about! So, you don't think that the #1 could be made to burn kero? Seems to be, with all that cast iron, it might work, if some thought went into the working up. But, in truth, I'm just happy with the #1 as it stands, and won't be trying kero, or any other fuel in the near (or far) future in that venerable stove! Best to Mrs Flivver, and Furry Flivver, Mike, and God Bless!

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    Thanks Hazet.

    I'll keep an eye for 445's out there. Saw some Butterfly brass single burners too. Will keep that as another option.
     
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    Morning, triggerz,

    Be advised that you are not going to have an easy time seeking out one of those Coleman 445 stoves. I've been looking for quite a few years, and still have not found a single one! As to the Butterfly, well..... as Thumper's Mom said, "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all"!! :shock: ;) :lol: :lol: I had one, once, and it was really not even close to being in the same league with most of the other stoves we enjoy here. "Cheap" was the way I thought about it..... For what it's worth....(not much, IMHO!) ;) :lol: :lol: [-X [-X :thumbdown: :thumbdown: Others may have gotten a better one, but mine, even brand new, was not worth keeping. Take care, and God Bless!

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    I agree with Mark on the 445 rarity. I've seen two on ebay in the last couple years. they are pretty difficult to find, and when one does show up, the collectors come out of the woodwork!
     
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    Doc Mark,

    Thanks for the heads-up on the Butterflies. They look really good with the low price and the shiny brass.

    Will approach with caution. Much caution then.

    triggerz