Got my 111 running

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  1. donv

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    Took this picture tonight. I had a steady blue flame but it would sputter when i tried to get it any higher than the picture. Maybe i didn't reset the needle correctly? I'm pretty sure it should be able to run hotter. it took 15 minutes to boil that pot of water.
     
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    111 or 111T?

    and yes, should run hotter with an adjustable flame - check pressure (seals) and needle?

    willie
    on the humid Gulf of Mexico
     
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    Linux_author,

    I believe that its a 111T. I can see the shadow of the outer cap in the flame.

    donv,

    At full power I would expect the flame to blossom out bigger than what is shown in the pic. If the tank is pumped up to a reasonable pressure check the needle "click position".

    Is that 1-pint or 1-quart of water?

    AR
     
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    seals are good and holding pressure.
    will recheck the needle tonight. I guess it's about a pint (2 cups)
     
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    i think it's a 111t. multi fuel with silent burner. the label just says 111. currently burning Kerosene
     
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    Hi, donv,

    Congrats on getting it running, so far. I think your cleaning needle is set too high. When you try to turn up the stove any more, it "sputters", mainly, because you are already raising the needle towards the jet, which would cause that to happen.

    I'll be in Los Angeles on Friday, I think about 9:30, for an eye exam. When I'm finished, if you have time, we could meet up for lunch, and I could look at your stove, if you want. If we make a plan, I can bring a few tools, and check the needle adjustment for you, and a few other things, if you want. No pressure, one way, or the other, but the offer is there, if you want to do it. By the way, I set my cleaning needles on most such stoves, down between 4-5 clicks. In the Optimus Maintenance Manual that I have, 3-4 clicks is recommended. But, I've found that sometimes, for some stoves, 5 clicks will do the trick. For some stoves, however, less clicks will do it. Each stove has it's own personality. In any case, let me know if you want to meet up, and I can check it out for you. Take care, and God Bless!

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    Doc,
    What a kind offer.
    Anytime you get up near Libby,MT let me know, I have some stoves that need work.....
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    Hi, Majicwrench,

    Hey, we take care of each other around CCS! Interestingly enough, one of our Stovies from CCS was driving through Montana a few hours ago, and is planning to meet up with some of our fellow Stovies on that trip. He should be exiting Montana this afternoon, however, so he will probably miss you. Darn it!! :doh: :doh: :D :D Take care, and God Bless!

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    thanks Doc,
    Where are you going to be in L.A. ?
    Problem is I work 8 to 5. may be able to take a long lunch depending on how far you'll be from my work.
     
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    Hey, donv,

    I'll be near downtown LA, but after my exam, it's a short hop to just about any other place that is Los Angeles. Let me know where you work, and let's see if we can make a plan. Take care, and God Bless!

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    link of my stove running
    [media=youtube]rP36o1kkxe8[/media]

    i reset the needle. it seems to be running well, boiled pot of water in less than 5 minutes. no more sputtering. When i lowered the flame i got more of a yellow flame, normal? anyway, i feel i'm headed in the right direction.
     
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    Yep, it looks good until you turn it way down.
    What fuel you are using for the video?
    Do you know which jet is installed?
    It does look to me that you could get a little more oomph on high, but that could just be how much you decided to pump it. (that said, I doubt I have ever used more than 7 or 8 strokes of the pump with my 111s.)
     
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    using kerosene. i pumped it a bout 6 times. i took the pump out and once again i'm seeing a little bit of fuel in the tube. i changed the vavle with a new one but the pip literally crumbled to dust after 4 months which makes me think it was made from the wrong material (bought direct from a&h) put the old pip in the new valve and it's leaking again. i think this is my only issue that needs fixing at this point. (as far as my stove goes) :mrgreen:
     
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    Hi, donv,

    It's looking much better, but still way too yellow in the flames. Like Itchy asked, what fuel are you using? Is it K-1 water-white kerosene, or something else that is "like" kerosene? You should have a steady, nicely blue flame, from high to low, and a much better simmer than you currently have. I'd check the jet, and your fuel, as has been suggested. Take care, and God Bless!

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    hi Doc,
    i'm using straight up water white kerosene.

    regarding friday, I'm in hollywood. If you can make it over i can probably get you a parking spot in my lot. Let me know. or maybe we could meet halfway between Downtown and hollywood. I can probably do a 2 hr lunch.
     
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    Here's my 111T running at full power if it's any help:
    [media=youtube]0JxP83SgjKw[/media]

    I think you could pump a bit more to get more power, but there is still a lot of yellow at low power. Maybe you could run the tank empty and refill to get all the old crap out of the system. I would try a new jet too.
     
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    thanks. a good reference video
     
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    donv wrote:"hi Doc,
    i'm using straight up water white kerosene.

    regarding friday, I'm in hollywood. If you can make it over i can probably get you a parking spot in my lot. Let me know. or maybe we could meet halfway between Downtown and hollywood. I can probably do a 2 hr lunch. "

    Hey, donv,

    I'll be one exit South of you, on Alvarado, actually!! Let's see if we can make this happen! My appointment is at 9:30AM, and should take about an hour, or maybe a bit more, depending on how the tests go. I can head your way, and hang out until your lunch time rolls around. Let me know about when that might be, and I'll make sure to be in your area at that time. If you want to PT me your work address, and cell phone number, we can finalize plans on Friday. I look forward to seeing you, and checking out your stove, if you want, and visiting a bit. Talk to you soon, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
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    ok doc
    i'm right in the heart of tourist town hollywood. maybe we can meet around 11:30. I'll give you the address of my parking lot tomorrow. it's on las palmas right off hollywood blvd. There is always an empty space next to mine. my company pays monthly for them so it will be fine. We can hang in the lot to check out the stove.
     
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    Hi, donv,

    Sounds perfect. You are just about 5 miles North West of where I'll be, and it will only take me about 13 minutes to get from my Eye Doc, to you. Anyplace you want to go for lunch? I'm up for most anything, but not too keen on Arby's, or Jack in the Box, if that's what you have in mind. Otherwise, I am open as to food. I'll bring a few tools, and see what we can make of your stove. See you tomorrow, and send along your cell phone number in a PT, and I'll do the same, so that we can have contact tomorrow. Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
    Doc