Brassaxe, I think Kerophile is telling you that adjusting your flame plate is the same as switching to another size jet *if* you have gotten the flame to be as perfect as you are happy with. If the stove works to your satisfaction, then there would be no need to go to extreme lengths of employing expensive custom machinists to make special jets for you. But, if you are rolling in dough and just want to throw some money around on custom work, please let us know how it works out. 8) One thing to consider is that if you are raising your flame plate very much, then you are probably bathing those six heat conduction fins with less flame than you would were the flame plate placed in direct contact with the fins (as I believe to be the intent of the designers). This could cause some loss of heat conducted to the vapor chamber in the base of the burner. With heavy fuels and cold temperatures, you could possibly find that your stove will lose the ability to vaporize the fuel should you have the flame plate raised too much. For myself, I just don't worry about any of this stuff that much. The small details really don't make that much difference to me in the operation of the stove. It's a great stove as it stands out of the box with all the common fuels it's intended to use. That's just me and no disrespect intended should you be of a different mind. You don't "need" a cap per se, it's just a fun accessory if the noisy burner was a problem for you. I wasn't trying to pressure you into one, just mentioning it should you be unaware since you mentioned the "buzzing" of your stove and seemed a tad dissatisfied (perhaps). I thought maybe you could have some fun with it but no worries from me either way you choose to go. Do you have other stoves? Or, just the Hiker+?
Well Hopefully thats what Kero is saying, thats the way i'm understanding it. If its not maybe I need more coffee. In my case I like tinkering, so extreme lengths are not so much to make the stove better, but for me to learn how it works and tinker a bit. If I can make the stove better I will, if I learn enough stuff to where I know the stove isn't perfect but i'm happy with it, i'm fine with that too.. I just like to mess around I guess. For now the burner plate is a bit below the top of the generator. The flame comes out at about 40 degrees from straight up. Seems to be a good place and the flame neither breaks away from the generator nor makes it too concentrated in one spot under a pot. And no disrespect taken, it is a great stove. But I don't think anything I own hasn't been tinkered with in some way or another. Maybe the pillows in the bed and an old clock I have, but other than that... Its all been messed with.. haha I do have more stoves as a matter of fact. Not many since i'm not a collector. Maybe a half dozen of so. I select them very specifically and after a lot of thought. My main talent is with wood fires and that kinda thing. Over the summer I make my own charcoal for fun. But I do have a new stove as of today coincidentally. Its not "classic" or anything. Its an Evernew Ti stove. I'm trying to get a kit that will fit in the Optimus weekender pot set. I have a few odds and ends left to get before its all set up.
Hi and Good Morning, or at least it is here in Scotland. Yes, Gary interpreted my message correctly. If you like tinkering with burners of stoves you might consider a design which is over 100 years old, the Primus No. 96. Regards, Kerophile
I've been eyeballing the Svea. I think i'm kinda fascinated by all in one stoves that either have an integrated case or a case thats purpose built for it as a cooking feature. You know Optimus 111, Trangia, Primus 71. Those sorts of things. I remember there was a Primus or and Optimus stove that was tube shaped and one end clam-shelled open. Would you know what stove that is? Or other stoves with a case, built in or otherwise?
There might be an error in that second sentence. At least half dozen stoves means that by this time next year you will be saying you are not a collector as you only have a dozen stoves Then 20. Its ok to admit the truth. You are among friends here.
Ha!! Finding a No.9 would be an amazing triumph in itself. The trick is then to find the $2000 to $3000 to buy it.
I remember my first stove. It was a Coleman feather 400, still have it.. But I was so fascinated that it was an all in one stove. All the other stoves at the army navy stove and the camping store were either huge or had a bottle with a hose. I was a little kid and I though "Man this is so cool that its a all one piece." I used to mess around with that stove for hours burning through white gas. Ever since then I've loved stoves, but as of yet I have managed to keep it together and only have a few.. Yeah maybe in a while I'll have a wall rack full of them. Right now my collecting is in old coffee makers. I actually think my next stove will probably kick off my stove collecting... I am dooomed..
I still have all my arms and legs.. I bet I could function just fine with 3 instead of 4 if it meant getting that stove.... haha
These are my favorites, I have a few more but there somewhere in storage and don't get used. Some of these are old and some new. All the way on the left clipped to the table is a Spong No.2 Coffee grinder made in the 40's or so. I modified it with a bronze bushing and a grind dial. Works really well. I use it almost every day. In the front left is a Vesuviana coffee maker from the 20's. Its my favorite coffee maker and it makes awesome moca. Behind that is a Bodum french press. Middle center theres an Aeropress which is awesome for hiking. Behind the Aeropress is a 1970's La Peppina espresso maker. I had to restore that pretty much from scratch. It was filled with gravel.. Luckily its one of the few 110v 1100w left in working order. To the right of the aeropress is a Haro Mini grinder which is great for hiking. And behind that is a Bialetti Moka pot In the back is probably the most interesting coffee maker I have. And makes the most interestingly good tasting coffees. Its a Hario Mizudashi that I ordered from Japan. You put the coffee in the top and cold water in the pot. You let it sit in the fridge for 18 hours and you get cold coffee.. Really interesting..
I have a Salter clamped to a shelf, Made in England, I haven't played with it yet. An Arcade and a 'Wind Mill design' on the wall. I have about 10 Stainless Steel moka style pots. I got interested in them on this forum. I have a Pre-millenium La Pavoni. It works. Aeropress on a shelf somewhere. I have a Hario Skelton and 4 wood box German grinders (Zassenhaus and ..) and 3 brass Turkish mills. A couple of Pyrex glass perks. A 1910 Manning Bowman percolator with the chafing dish stove and rack (patent 1910). That makes 2 qts of awesome coffee. A Cory glass vacuum pot in the original box. ETC .... Daily is a Technivorm and sometimes one of the Chemex or V60 (Hario). Oh, and I roast my own. Ken in NC
On the "To Get" list is a Turkish Ibrik, a Chemex, a Vacuum Coffee maker and a drip coffee maker.. Not the regular kind, but actual drip.. Like a Hario WDW-6. On any given day it's usually the Bodum French press, or my Bunn ST-10 which makes fast pot coffee. I love the La Peppina and it was nice that I got it right before Orphan Espresso got rid of a lot of its stock. I spent a few hundred dollars restoring that thing. Most coffee stuff i've bought is gone as it doesn't get used much. Everything gets used on a monthly basis or i'll probably get rid of it. What I have right now is probably 1/3rd of everything I've owned or have owned. And most of whats left is really fun to use! What I really want is an Atomic Stovetop Coffee maker.. But I really suggest the Mizudashi.. Its not like anything else in terms of coffee. Maybe someday i'll roast my own coffee.
Go the Atomic! I have one which I've owned since September 1984 and it gets used every day. It is also very good on a pressure stove, so sometimes it goes along in the car with me when I'm travelling - it's just a bit too bulky for bushwalking...
I too have an Atomic, bought it from a second hand shop some years ago - older model but hardly used. Cost me AU$15. Spares are still available from Sydney. Have ordered all new seals etc. for mine - just need to fit them. Even have the instruction book!
Oh man you guys are bad influences, now I want to go look for one again... I originally wanted to get an Atomic, and then get a La Peppina. But as circumstances had it a La Peppina popped up for sale first and it was the US 110V, WITH the 1100W Element, WITH a black water pot.. All three of which were exactly what I wanted. Since I bought it I haven't seen any of that type since, so it was a good choice.. I think I payed $115 or something.. But I ended up investing much more.. Overall I am very happy with it.. But that little voice inside me still bugs me and says.. "Buy an Atomic... Buy an Atomic..." Frick.. haha The Vesuviana is like a mini Atomic. I really like that little thing. Here is something that might interest you guys. Steam Powered Coffee Makers
